The Influence of Gaming and Anime

Gabby: I think the one that I don’t know if I will get anytime soon into is like one piece.

Zeke: Oh 900 and something episodes.

Gabby: No, no, they haven’t. I will wait until they find the one piece.

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Zeke: I like to welcome, everyone to another episode of the Let’s Gather Podcast. I’m your host Zeke. In this episode I have my friend Gabby to talk about anime video games adjusting to a new COVID-19 world. I like to give a content warning for any strong language used in this episode. And I hope you have a nice day and enjoy the show. 

Zeke: First question is always what would what would your origin story be?

Gabby: What would sorry my what be?

Zeke: Origin story

Gabby: What would my story me um oh my. My story is from I’m 19 I’m, um, I’m a gamer. I’m into games video games. I’m into anime. Um, I have two dogs, and I’m a college student. Yeah, that’s pretty much my story.

Zeke: So would it be like a anime video game book?

Gabby: I think it would be a video game because I feel like there’s so many different paths to what my story can go into that like, you can you can pick and choose and go with it.

Zeke: Oh, so decision adventure like open world?

Gabby: Yeah, definitely open world for sure. Yeah. (inaudible) linear.

Zeke: So with video games in mind how long you been playing video games?

Gabby: Video games I would say like, since I started high school. Um, I started with The Legend of Zelda. And that was because my dad got me into it. And he has like all of the consoles and all of the like games in the lineup. And he was like, you know, come check this out and I didn’t really like, you don’t really know what to expect because he was telling me like, yeah, you’re like you play this guy who has to like save the princes and like, defeat this villain and like, he introduced me I think the first one he was Ocarina of Time.

Zeke: Okay.

Gabby: I was like this is cool  fun.

Zeke: The 64.

Gabby: Yeah. And then he introduced it to me on the 64 and I was like, This is weird. Like, why like this looks old. And he’s like, yeah, cuz these the old, the original. So he started like playing it with me a lot more often. Like he was teaching me how to play it. And then you know, he would play it on his own and then I just started getting into it and then I kind of took a break after a while when I was in high school because it kind of like, it didn’t really interest me a lot anymore, but then I got back into it when the switch came out, which was like 2017. And then I started getting into it and now I play a lot like I have, like Smash Bros. I have you know, I, I got into like Overwatch a little bit with like my friends like that, that area of gaming. Um, but like, I don’t know, Overwatch seems like a lot to me. Like, I’m down for like smash or whatever, but like, I don’t know, like people raging into it. Like, I don’t know if I’m into that. But um, yeah, like other than that, it’s been pretty cool. So like, I would say, I’m a gamer in the sense of like Nintendo and like, Mortal Kombat. Like, I’m very like, I don’t stick to just like one area gaming. Um, but I I think I’m pretty I’m pretty well versed. But yeah, that’s pretty much when I started

Zeke: You started pretty late.

Gabby: Hmm, yeah, pretty late. I didn’t start really early on. I was kind of like a Yeah, I was I was kinda late. I was a late bloomer.

Zeke: I don’t know when I started with a virtual office I’m playing since I was two years old on the PlayStation one

Gabby: Heard you heard you. Yeah, I wish I wish I could got more into like the PlayStation because I was really like, my dad only had like the Nintendo consoles like he didn’t really have like PlayStations and Xbox. So I kind of wish I got into that more like I got into Xbox and PlayStation with like my cousins because they had like, one of my husband had a PlayStation four I played was like injustice, which is like, again, it’s not that old. It’s like mid two. It’s like mid 2010s You know? So yeah, I also had a really late start. Oh, and I kind of wish I got into that. Yeah.

Zeke: So I had the PlayStation1 2 3 4. PSP.

Gabby: Yeah. Heard you heard you.

Zeke: So you most like so you’re very game. So when you first start playing um Zelda, did you really enjoy it? Or was it more of like an learning experience

Gabby: Um, I really, I, it was different. It was different than like what I originally thought a game would be just because of like, you know, because the way that my dad explained it was like very, very simple. But then, then like, as I kept playing a lot more, it was like, I could get items and I could use the items in order to figure out these different puzzles. And I had to like, they were timed or like, I remember the first time where I first like, almost rage quit because I was like, this puzzle dumb, and I really couldn’t. And I was like, Oh my god, that was like, relax. Take a breath. Like I was really really mad because I couldn’t get this done because it seems so simple. Yes. I forgot, what exactly it was, it was like to get into like, one of the temples or something. Yeah, like, I like it was really, really difficult for me and I really couldn’t do it. And then I had to like take a break. So I took like a 15 minute break and I was like, I’m trying to like figure out how to get this puzzle man. But then what ended up happening was I forgot to use one of the items that I had originally gotten for the for the puzzle. So I use it you know like when every time you open the treasure box like like I found the treasure and I was like wait I had more of this item already like I could have just used it to figure out how to get into this temple and I did and then like 123 it opened up it was like those were like really like what made it a lot of fun I like challenges that came with it that it wasn’t just like you like it wasn’t as linear as I thought it was gonna be like yeah, I can do it I can just save this princess and like get it over with but not had to open up so many different like what’s like the world’s to like it was just so mean at the time. And really Ocarina you know, was like the game that got me into games. Because I was like, I don’t know there was more like that and like at the time that like everything had already come out. So like Majora’s Mask like all usually after the 90s and whatever. So I think play a lot more in like my time would be dedicated to playing these games and like playing them to its full capacity. Um, and then I tried hero mode for the first time like the hardest one and I couldn’t do it. I was like, no, no. I’m gonna stick with them. But yeah, I think Zelda was definitely like the game that really kind of opened my eyes to like even knowing other Nintendo games like, I didn’t even know like Mario was a thing until I played like my third Zelda game and I was like, Oh, so Mario is like from the same company as old and I was like, Yeah, I was like, I didn’t pay

Zeke: Since when?

Gabby: I was like, I didn’t play Super Mario Brothers like until like 2012 which is like, it’s very, very late, but I like really was just my dad that was also the game that my dad was into only like he never really like was into Oreo. He was into Zelda so that was just like what he wanted to do, but yeah, that’s been pretty much that’s been like pretty much my experience with it so far.

Zeke: And with Zelda, did you keep up with the story and like the different storylines in time?

Gabby: Yeah, I I like the whole timeline though all of that stuff I put myself into that. I’m, I’m still on Breath of the Wild. I it’s in the sense of like, it’s such an open world. So I haven’t defeated the main boss yet. Over the wild, and on my switch. The switch tells you like how many hours you’ve logged into, like, yeah. And it says I have like over 300 hours. Because it’s so like, it’s such an open world that there’s still things that like, even in the story, like I already spoiled it for myself. I know what happens at the end, so I’m just like, I just haven’t played it for myself yet. But I definitely keep up with the story and I know that you know Breath of the Wild 2 is like they announced it earlier last year. Hopefully, like, I don’t know, going on, I know everything’s away for like a day or whatever. But, um, I definitely follow up with the story. I’m like, what’s next? Because I think one thing that I also love about Zelda too is that like, it’s still the same story, but there’s aspects that they change of it. So it’s still like, you’re still learning. You’re still fighting to save the princess from Ganon, but it’s like, now you’re a wolf. And now there’s three days and now you have to do another arena. And it’s like, added elements that you think wouldn’t like, you’re like, wait, that doesn’t really make sense. But then when they when you see it in the game, you’re like, wait, that does make sense. So yeah, I definitely follow up with like the story and everything.

Zeke: My first Zelda game was the one that came with the DS light. Tried to play it had puzzles and I was like you know what,

Gabby: I think it was um from let me see because they all have puzzles.

Zeke: Yeah

Gabby: But um but but the DS Lite one I’m trying to think it was probably like Four Swords I’m like that is probably was like one of the off brand game

Zeke: It was Phantom of the Hourglass something like that yeah.

Gabby: Yeah yeah there there are some games that like don’t really like keep up with like the main storyline so Phantom Hourglass is one of them like if you were to look like this is just me getting into the story for a bit but like if you were to look at like the timeline there are some games that kind of like branch off so it’s not just like part of the main story and Phantom Iris is one of them. If you’ve seen one that’s called like Four Swords it’s like four. They’re all different colors. Yeah, that one is kind of like not really like the main game. But yeah, that was that was definitely one of them. And see like I The thing is like I haven’t played all those all like either like I haven’t played Phantom Hourglass I don’t really know much about it I’ve just played like the main one so I’ve played I played Majora the original ones you know Zelda 2 Adventure of Link whatever and then like Twilight Princess and everyone everything that came after that, but yeah, there are still some games that I haven’t played

Zeke: Yet have puzzles I was like no what not for me Nope, never again.

Gabby: Yeah a lot of them are like very puzzle savvy and I’m just like I need to see some action like I need sword fights some some way, you know some storyline like I’m down for the story mode. Um, but yeah some of them are to to puzzly I just like I try to skip it If not, I’m just like, Okay. Which for another game Mario and I’ll be fine.

Zeke: Yeah, so again when you play games like fun or like to play to complete?

Gabby: So it really depends like, they’re like right now. Like if you were to like look at like my screen Which I’m very like for Breath of the Wild like I play for fun, but for like Pokemon because right now I have, I have two Pokemons I have Pokemon Shield, and then I have um Pokemon um Let’s go Eevee. And Let’s Go Eevee I played like to complete it, like I didn’t mention, like, I didn’t rush it, but I, I wanted to play that to completion but like for Pokemon Sword, like I know that has a bigger world and like a bigger area and like, let’s go up. Um, so that one is mostly just like I take my time with it. But it really depends on like the game. Like, if I like for me, I knew like I couldn’t do Breath of the Wild like all in like, a couple of months. Like I knew I had to like stretch it out. So it really just depends. But if I’m playing a game again, then I think like, I can just rush it and I’m just like, yeah, it should make you just do the story mode. But mostly I do play it for fun if it’s the first time because I kind of want to get to know everything. And then you you know, you can always open up like another save file and just like play that play that again once you’re done. Yeah So it’s a little bit of both to be honest.

Zeke: Again, would you do like one or two by yourself? Or do with your friends?

Gabby: Mm hmm. I would say like, I mean, I’m down for playing with other people like I don’t think it shouldn’t just be like, a solo game where like, you really can’t put the people that don’t be like hey guys right now. Um, but if it’s a game like smash or if it’s a game like Overwatch Mortal Kombat like I’m down for like playing with friends or even if it’s like Mario or like the best group game we sports it’s really fine when people um yeah, it’s a little bit of both it also just like depends on the game like a lot of the like I know Zelda isn’t really like a two player. Play as Link and that’s it. But I heard for like I heard a rumor that like Breath of the Wild 2, you can maybe get to play as a different character. I don’t know. Um, people were saying that you may get to Zelda

Zeke: Zelda Zelda or like Sheik Zelda? Wait, what?,

Gabby: You froze.

Zeke: You froze my connection unstable.

Gabby: Okay,

Zeke: Cool Is it good on that side?

Gabby: I’m good Yeah, I hear you’re good now.

Zeke: Okay.

Gabby: Yeah

Zeke: So like as Zelda Zelda or like Sheik Zelda?

Gabby: Um I mean honestly though like when I when I first saw Sheik as like a character and I found out that Sheik was actually Zelda I was like oh like that was such a plot twist for me I was like wait what? I don’t know I feel like Zelda like for me Zelda and Peach are kind of like the same like they’re just like waiting for the like the man to save them and I’m just like girls ladies let’s not but honestly the like Zelda has been through so much stuff though like she’s like it’s not just like like home girl has been kidnapped so many times like Peach just like play that off but like Zelda is like Zelda it can be can be bad ass when she wants to be especially in Breath of the Wild she’s a lot more like she’s a lot more she advocates for yourself a lot more in Breath of the Wild I’ve seen, um, like to fight off like the bad guys on her own and like story mode and all that but like, I don’t know, just because like Zelda has changed but Sheik has always been like, like the badass that Zelda wants to be but like Zelda is like this princess and she like has to like save her kingdom and whatever. I feel like is weird because she can tell they’re the same person so I can’t um, honestly, like I would probably say Sheik could cuz I know Sheik can like defend herself while Zelda can be like I’m a princess save me yeah.

Zeke: I stayed more with Playstation  because you know birth and then Sly Cooper was a big game back in the day. I remember like gaming is more like just for fun and then once I got to middle school then became with friends but online really became a thing. Yeah like um  Call of Duty I played with my friends yay.

Gabby: Yeah and I think like for me like that’s been kind of like my biggest thing where like I never really got the opportunity to like play Call of Duty or like play like other group games like I was only raised on like the Nintendo console so I never really got the chance to like be on Xbox or be on PlayStation.

Zeke: Nintendo people that’s it. That’s it.

Gabby: I mean, like, I think that was the only thing that he saw back in the day like he didn’t really see a lot of likely cuz he and I were having a conversation I was like what got you to like be into Nintendo like you could have been a PlayStation guy or you could have been an Xbox guy like what really got you into like fitness in the console and he was like rose that’s the only thing I saw at the store man like, that was the only thing that they marketed for me. They were like pro Nintendo like SNS like what is that? So? That was what my dad saw like that really wasn’t like it’s not that he didn’t want to be into PlayStation. He was just like, that was just what was available at the time. But

Zeke: Nintendo came out first and then Sega well, Atari in the before the with the Nintendo came back. Then Sega. Yeah, the PlayStation, Microsoft and then Sega died. Yeah. I remember having my GameCube also have the GameCube itself. Not anything else with it.

Gabby: Hmm, yeah, my dad has my dad’s a GameCube. He has like, and the thing is like he’s maintained them so well. That link works like those I have like this video and I’ll send it to you like, my dad, like, literally playing like the O g like he connected all the wires to the television. And I was like, What like how does this still exist? Like I like cuz he hasn’t like he hasn’t tried to like sell it or anything like he just kept it in like our attic for like so many years. So it’s everything’s still in a condition which is like really really cool.

Zeke: Yeah I was like five when I got the GameCube. 

Gabby: Hmm I know yeah yeah my cuz my dad was like probably like in his teens when that came oh yeah

Zeke: I was yeah so so have itself

Gabby: Yeah

Zeke: So gaming So let’s move on from gaming to more like anime tv shows

Gabby: Yeah,

Zeke: So we both seen Castlevania

Gabby: Yeah, yeah. What what was season three? Like

Zeke: It was a

Gabby: Like they really didAlucard dirty man like they did Alucard dirty they did Hector dirty. But like,

Zeke: I don’t like Hector.

Gabby: You don’t like Hector yeah, I yeah I don’t like Hector either I feel like he’s he’s too I don’t know like he’s he’s easily manipulative, which is like it’s not it’s not his fault to a point because he’s also like in these extreme circumstances but like at the same time he’s like I hate humans and whatever but then it’s like you let yourself be like abused by these women and I don’t know man like he like I was looking at my screen I was like really Hector wait you really want to be like doing this right now and like that whole like episode nine. The entirety of episode nine to me was like, What? Like, I literally had to skip it because I was like, What is happening? so much?

Zeke: Like my eyes I’m young.

Gabby: Yeah, I was like, ya know, um, but I think like, that’s what made it like, so m like, as much as like season nine, season three. Season Three was like a lot. It was also I would say, like one of the best executed seasons because there was just so much like, I don’t want to say plot twist, at least for me, because I kind of knew like, everything with Alucard was coming because I was like, they’re probably gonna like beat him up or something. Yeah, wasn’t like it was gonna be like, just so open to doing that. But as they were doing it and like the execution of it, I was like, wow, like it was. It was a lot that I had to like, stop like after episode nine and I was like. Bro, let me just absorb

Zeke: No,

Gabby: No, they did everybody dirty. So yeah, it was it was a lot a lot. But I like I don’t know, they ended it on a hanger. Now like, everything gonna go back to like how it was with like Dracula and like, you know how he did humans like, it’s pretty much like you don’t know because they could like season four could just come in and be like the well Dracula’s back. You know? Okay. But yeah, I would just say like, because I didn’t I never played the games either. Like I needed to empty castle. Like, I didn’t really know it was a gaming series until they were like, yeah, based on video games, and I was like, what, like, um, but I’ve heard like, some of them are great, but some of them like weren’t that good.

Zeke: Yeah,

Gabby: I was just like, Um, but yeah, I think this is I think Castlevania is like one of the best like video game adaptations I’ve seen. Especially like just looking at like the con like the story of the games and also like the story of the show, and like how you they align, but they also are different in the sense of like, they don’t necessarily copy everything. Yeah. Because I also feel like I also follow the story of Castlevania through the games, and I was watching. I was like reading up on like, all the wikis and stuff, like, you know, everything, just so like, I could make sense to me, because I was like, Who is this Lisa? Like, why is she important? Because I didn’t know. So then I like looked it up. And I was like, wow, this is actually like, aligning really well with the game. Yeah. Because I know like, the biggest thing with video game adaptations of like movies and film is that they’re just not good. Unfortunately, um, but I think one video game adaptation that I want to see is the Witcher. I don’t know. Like, if you’ve seen it, I’ve heard mixed reviews but like it’s, it’s okay. It’s not like the best that the game is like, better in the terms of like story,

Zeke: Yeah I don’t know I haven’t played the game or watch the show. So no reference.

Gabby: Yeah for sure. But um yeah that’s pretty much like anime like Netflix anime that I’ve seen the rest I just watch on like Crunchyroll but I just watched a bunch of like shows I don’t watch I like I rarely watch any Shōnen I think the best the two Shōnen that I’ve watched are like Demon Slayer and then Hunter Hunter but that’s because like everybody knows I like like when I say like I’m into anime I’m not into like all of anime I’ve just been like really introduced I like I started watching the anime I would say about like two years ago so I’ve been really I’m like,

Zeke: Late Late.

Gabby: I’m late to something. Oh, but into it and then now I’m watching like a bunch of Shōjo anime now because the bubbles and the romance and all that stuff and I love it. So yeah, like I could talk about Shōnen to.

Zeke: Yeah, so I’m a stay on Castlevania for a second and talk about how they had video game aspects in the show how he acted the town people who like questions, and then give you the answer. Like in a video game you go the open world and ask the people around. You see what they say about what’s going on. Yeah, and how Trevor found the whip inside a chest inside a wall.

Gabby: Yeah. Yeah.

Zeke: That is a video game.

Gabby: Yeah, honestly. And I liked how they incorporated elements of the game like the music for the show, like when they started playing, like, like the battle music to win like Trevor brought out the whip and like, and the chain, I was like, I felt like I was like, like, like a boss. Like

Zeke: Two whips.

Gabby: Yeah, a whip and a chain. But yeah, also, I think one of the biggest turnoff for me for that season, I would say was like the whole like portal to hell thing. Yeah, just cuz I’ve seen that trope played so many times. I’m just like, yeah, we’re trying to open a portal who’s gonna bring me who and I was like, Oh my god, another one. I’m literally just DJ Khaled just that’s all that I was like. No, but I liked how they incorporated Dracula into this one like you just see like a glimpse of him with his wife and then you just kind of you you know, you see him like y’all really love me like I spent season one and two trying to go back to my wife and bring me back. Um, but yeah, I think they really did my my son our Alucard dirty. Yeah. That was my biggest like, takeaway. I was like aw man I hate humans

Zeke: He like you know what, dad did this. I’m gonna do it, too.

Gabby: Yeah, that’s literally what he said though. He’s like, bro, this literally worked for my dad. It worked for me. Um, yeah, man, man. What do you think about um, about Carmela. Like his, her little trio of sisters, are they lovers to I don’t know

Zeke: Two of them are two of them are lovers.

Gabby: I know two of them are like what Like they’re they’re married. Yeah, the the brolic one. Like and then like the smart one or like yeah, and the youngest one who like seems okay, I like okay, what’s her name? Lenore?

Zeke: Yeah

Gabby: She’s freaky she’s a freaky vampire man. Like when I saw what was went down, I was like, Damn girl, you freaky. Like, everyone thought she was innocent and she was. She was like, the like what? I think she called herself like the healer or something like that. Yeah, I think Yeah, the diplomat, I was like, Okay. You know, like,

Zeke: Manipulate,

Gabby: Help Hector get our body and then she like put a little light on him and I was like, Damn girl. I was really like, sad when I was. I want You will freaky little vampire bam. She was a yes he’s my pet now and I was like

Zeke: This is my sex slave wait what?

Gabby: Yeah, I was like wait a minute. Yeah no i was i was like she’s like Carmela was like girl What are you doin? Same says like I think we were we were all criminal in that point I was like okay you will freaky little one

Zeke: This is why she had to seat at the table.

Gabby: Right? Right. And I was like I don’t know if that’s how like you exert power so like if you do you fam you um but yeah Hector really was like one of the biggest turnoff for me too I was just like Damn man when when you learn bro like he opens his heart up to Carmilla Yeah, and then he gets he gets to like be dragged or whatever, and then he opens it up to Lenore. The thing is he’s like he was doing so well in the beginning like he was like not not wanting to be with her he was like, I don’t care, um, but then little boy was like come open my heart up to you and like so much more and then boom, get the literally clapped.

Zeke: And he’s even worse.

Gabby: Yeah worse worse than and he’s done I was like man, me

Zeke: Like this is why Isaac is the best character

Gabby: Yeah, oh my god Isaac had such a great arc this season one of the best man like when he had that talk with the captain yes that was like I really love the dialogue I was like damn damn also do like I really liked Sypha in this season Sypha in this season like very quickly I remember Sypha being like, you know, like she knew her stuff but she was like, still like, you know being able to see like the but like the good in everybody. Also like that storyline with the judge and like the kids.

Zeke:  Yeah

Gabby: Bro, I was like, wow, what I would Yeah, this this was a lot. But definitely I had a newfound appreciation for Sypha and like, the fact that she was able to like, be a lot more assertive. Just like just like the dialogue between her and Trevor. I was like, Oh, I was cute. It was cute, but I missed. I missed the three of them together. Alucard Trevor and Sypha. I missed that. Oh my god that’s scene when like he made the dolls of them. He was like, making fun of like, and then he tried to like mimic Sypha’s accent and she’s like, I know I’m better than everybody. And I was like, yeah,

Zeke: I’m going crazy.

Gabby: Yeah, he’s like, it’s only it’s like, like, was it a month, but like, since everything because he also didn’t know if it was a month between like, ever since he fought his dad Yeah, he was like I’m not sure if it’s even a month and I was like, Wow, you’re going crazy. But yeah, I also I didn’t like the new characters that he ended up like mentoring but also betraying him. I don’t know why like they

Zeke: Didn’t fit.

Gabby: Yeah, I felt like they were added, just to be added, like they just weren’t put in new characters because because I think also too is like, there was no evidence of them at all existing in season two. So now they show up in season three. I was like, Who are they? But then yeah, and I think that storyline was rushed. Yeah, I definitely feel like that could have been expanded a lot more. I didn’t think it had to end in season three. Like, no, I knew that they were going to die. I just feel like I don’t know. Like, I feel like that I feel like like, like the moments of them training together and whatever. Like should have been extended with them. They just took that route. And I was like, oh,

Zeke: Oh, okay.

Gabby: Yeah, I was like Ah, now now, you gonna die. Yeah,  Yeah.

Zeke: They probably had to give Alucard something to do so lets give him two more humans.

Gabby: Yeah. For sure.

Zeke: Because I think that’s what happened. I think like with Alucard and Dracula, they had like a porcupine complex where they try and get close to people, but they can’t. Because they also like vampires. They can’t get close to humans because humans want to kill them. But they kind of don’t want to kill them.

Gabby: Yeah, yeah.

Zeke: Dracula answer to this question was you know what let’s kill all of it.

Gabby: Yeah, and I think to kind of going off with that porcupine complex you’re saying I feel like also Isaac to a little bit of that. I’m in that like, he even said it himself. He was like, I want to hate humans, but like, they’re giving me opportunities to like love them though. Because they’re being kind and like generous. Yeah. Like, like I yeah, Isaac’s arc in season three was like one of the best that I’ve seen. Because they’re like he was able to like think he redeemed himself but he kind of kept killing people. But also like the action scenes too. Were like really really good. Like he was Isaac when like he got all of his monsters to like fight the people in the ball. I was like, what. But I heard that that was like a part of the game. Well, yeah, that were a part let like play the game were like really, really happy with the implemented that. And I think you know, with video game adaptations, as long as you really stick to like the story, and you bring elements of the game into the movie, it can work out. Yeah. It’s like, the producers decide not to because they want to like make it that it’s like, oh, we’re not just adapting the game. Yeah, that’s what fans are looking for, though. Like they’re looking for like, you know, like Sonic to look like Sonic. To not look human. Um, but you know, they then they mess it up, but I feel like with Castlevania it’s also an anime and I feel like that’s what makes it easier that it’s not a live action because I feel like live action Castlevania would be so wild like it would be. And I think the guys over at Netflix and like the producers have a lot more freedom when it comes to it because they’re able to animate these things. Um, but I feel like to Netflix has been wanting to get into the anime anime you know area a lot more often now because they added like a whole bunch of anime. Like, like they added Hunter Hunter and I was like, wow, because I would only I only saw that on Crunchyroll but Netflix only add up to season three. So I don’t know what’s up with that, add all the seasons, but it’s fine. Um, but yeah, I feel like for Castlevania, I definitely think it’s like one of the best like video game adaptations of animation or live action. I just like I know, if they were to do a live action Castlevania. It would it would be a lot like I don’t think they would do what they could do with like season three, I feel like they would have had to make a like rated R. For sure.

Zeke: NC 17.

Gabby: Yeah, I think you you can’t like I Yeah, I definitely don’t see them having like that much freedom with a live action versus animation also because like, I think so it comes down to like, how many episodes they came out with because I know like because they started off with four. Yeah, why and everyone was like, why was this so short? But it’s because like it was so like graphic that they were like, We don’t know if you guys are gonna like it. Because it was giving me a lot of like Attack on Titan vibes with graphic. But I know like Attack on Titan is like over here. Like castlevanias like right underneath, but Attack on Titan is graphic but that’s a whole nother thing but um, yeah, I feel like also with the episode count it left like fans wanting more and then the people that never played the games like you and I have like we were also like, bro like, I like this. Let’s let’s keep Let’s keep this going Yeah, I think 10 episodes was good. I feel like it was it was a good like it was enough. Cuz I feel like if they were to pull out like an eight episode again, I’d be like, are you? Are you Are y’all serious? But yeah, I feel like also that storyline with the judge and the kids kind of going back to that. But that was wild. Because I saw the judge as a character that like, I don’t want to see I could trust but now I thought was like an ally. And then, you know, you go to his house and you see all the like, little like shoes and stuff. And I was like, Oh, he killed it. And like, even Sypha was like, I’m angry. And I was like,to like, Oh, um,

Zeke: We saw the kid that goes to the apple tree. And he told the um dogma was a guy named Godbran like that. To go to the same apple tree was like,

Gabby: What’s his name? Yeah, yeah, the like The main guy It started with the s it was like sola so yeah so but yeah i was like whoa like I think also how they executed it was like wild because I didn’t notice like like when one when it comes to like his like his body unlike impelled all those sticks I was like why like because it was funny because I watch it like cuz my Netflix is automatically with like subtitles I don’t know why but I saw like the subtitles come up and it’s like wait like what’s with all of those little like you know with the shoes and all that Now where do you all see I didn’t see the first time but then when they went to his house and they saw little shoes I was like so that’s why cuz because it clicked I was like wait are there like kids in this town because I saw them in the beginning when they first came in like in like Trevor in Sypha drive the body of like the night creature with them wonder wagon. I saw But I was like, what happens? Should we should we find out what? Um, and then I was like, oh my god they dead and he killed them. But also like, I don’t really get like, what like I didn’t know what was his motive of killing like they they explained it a little bit because they were like oh he just wanted control of like the people like you don’t want to lay out like I it left me with a lot of questions but I definitely think it was executed very very well.

Zeke: Oh no and Trevor was like you know what you guys are my world now.

Gabby: Yeah, I was like, Yeah, I love that line where he was like we were living in your world. Bro. Yeah. It’s a it’s a lot.

Zeke: The one thing that sucks about Castlevania is that the only there’s always only one Belmont Belmont? I want to see multiple Belmont.

Gabby: Yeah, that was my thing too, because I feel like the games only also only focus on one Belmont. Yeah, I should change because I feel like if you were to meet like some long lost cousin, yeah, double Belmont team, Carmela and her gang of vampires. But I’m also waiting for the moment that like Sypha and Trevor reunite with that Alucard because I want to see how that goes.

Zeke: Like, they all in a similar place.

Gabby: Yeah, for sure. And I feel like also emotionally and like mentally they’re all in a similar place to like he has his mind closed off to people, like Trevor and Sypha also, like despise like the people that were in that town because of how evil they were. Yeah. But also like, what really what like got me confused for at the beginning, but then I had to like, watch. The last episode to understand was when Sypha was like, oh, our mission failed. And I was like, wait, what do you mean? Like you guys kill the monster and like, everything’s fine. But then after we watch it, I was like, oh, because everybody

Zeke: Like, Alright, dead people.

Gabby: Yeah, I was like wait that ah, um, but yeah, and I get that. And I think also that’s why Trevor said what he said where he was like Welcome to my world because there are some people that you can’t save as much as like, everybody as much as like, everyone is like you think everyone’s a good person? I thought that’s what Sypha believed at first that everyone everyone wanted to save everybody that they were also like, not great people. But also what what do you think of that guy like the Saint Germain, the guy with the hat?

Zeke: He was confusing at first, but his arc is not finished he was Yeah, he got I need I need some more details. Okay, he’s a he’s a character in a game but like I don’t play the game. I don’t know who he is.

Gabby: Yeah, cuz I yeah, I was also confused because I didn’t know like when they showed the flashback of like the dream that he had. Yeah, what I was really confused. Um, but I mean I don’t know he said that he would see them later so we

Zeke: He’s a time traveler though.

Gabby: That’s what I that’s what I like understood because he was like, I’ve been like he said something that like me like that he was a time traveler and I was like,

Zeke: Cuz he mentioned toilet paper and the Judge was like what’s toilet paper?

Gabby: Yeah, and he was like, Whoa, I almost feel it. But um, yeah. And I think also like when when he went into like the church and You like saw like the different like guys that like worship the monster also Yeah, I felt like the monster was kind of out of place like I didn’t really understand the monster to to go like okay he came to the like the monster came to the town supposedly like I mean like we all know he was like a monster from hell but yeah, yeah I also need like a little more detail like if if, like if he provided his backstory details on them now would have been said I’d be like okay, I get it.

Zeke: I think the monster also knew the portal was there and since it’s loyal to Isaac and Isaac wants Dracula back that’s why he was like you can use this portal to then get Dracula  back.

Gabby: We’re just like spoilers.

Zeke: Cuz I think season four is gonna be like, the trio has a comeback. Yeah, fight Comella. But then Isaac has his army also because he has all the bodies.

Gabby: Because Isaac wants to kill Carmela, too. And he wants to kill Hector. For, like betraying Dracula And he wants to bring Dracula back. Yeah, I think. Yeah. Yeah, bro. That’ll be. I feel it might be like a hot take is that Trevor Sypha and Alucard would want to team up with Isaac. Just because it happened just because Isaac also sees them as traitors because like, I think I don’t know if he knows that those three killed. I don’t think he knows the Dracula’s dead. Does he know the Dracula’s dead?

Zeke: I think he probably had when he was talking to the captain. I think he has a hunch. Like he probably did.

Gabby: Yeah, I know. Yeah. When he was talking about it. He was like, I feel like I don’t feel Dracula’s presence or something like that anymore? Yeah. Um, but I feel like he’s also angry at Dracula though because he shut him out. And that cuz like, homeboy really pledged his. He was like, bro, I’m here for you let me fight and the Dracula was like into the desert. Like, sent him off. But yeah, I feel like he I know definitely he wants to Isaac wants to kill Carmel and Hector because that’s literally he was like, bro I gotta I gotta kill these. But that’d be a really cool hot take if like they wanted to team up. But I feel like Isaac, Isaac without them down he’d be like not my army. I’m gonna kill these people on my own

Zeke: And I’m gonna get that done but yeah, this whole town dead bodies that he was forge? Yeah cuz he was able to he was able

Gabby: To transform some of the people that were in that town. Yeah. So like, let me just ask you that that whole scene with like him going to the town and like the town people were being used as slaves. That was because like the main guy was a magician like he had like magic. Yeah. Like, cuz I know that people had like that green thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to clarify that because again, it left me with a lot of questions it really did. Yeah. Because there’s like this meme that I had. That was like, again, it’s just like, like, there’s this girl that I follow on on Tumblr who’s a character artist for Castlevania. And she was talking about season three. I was like, Damn, like she’s talking about how like they really did Alucard dirty. It has already been like, it’s already been set in stone that they did. Yeah. He’s just like, like, he’s, he was already so vulnerable for the fact that he literally killed his dad.

Zeke: And he was like, all right. I killed my dad.

Gabby: Yeah. And then, like these two guys, just again, they were irrelevant like no one knew who they were. They go off and like, I don’t know what they did. I think they like chained him like they have like, Yeah, whatever. I don’t know. I don’t know, man. But yeah, I think also the art style of Castlevania is really really good.

Zeke: Yeah, I don’t know those animators. I don’t envy they job. That’s why who knows how to animate, like, hats off to you guys.

Gabby: Yeah, also, like the animation too is a lot more developed from season. Like, when when you see I forgot what scene it was, but I think was one of the fighting scenes like Trevor moves, like so flawlessly. Like, if you like notice in like, like, last season, the animation was a lot more like, like abrupt so like you would like notice each and every frame. But like with Trevor, and he’s like, his arm like his whole body just like swerve so elegantly. And I was like, Whoa, like, this is good animation. They like upped up their game, which I think why? Because it it’s been like, what, like two years since? Yeah, like a year. and a half since season two. I know season one came out in like 2017. Yeah. Season Two came out in like, end of 20 because I know it came out on Halloween. Um, so I think it took them like a year and a half for 2019. But like, yeah, I it was it Yeah, the the animation was really like stepped up and to art style to. Um, but I think that’s what attracted me to it. Like I really liked that it wasn’t it was gory enough that I could handle it. It was it was good. But the art style is like very mature and it’s not like those animes. Like those video game adaptations like seem really like cheesy or corny. Actually, like, you’d be like, yeah, I watched Castlevania. And it’s good. Like, so underrated to like, no one wants to get into it. And I’m like, y’all, it’s a good it’s a good show, man. You know? T still needs to watch it. She hasn’t. And I keep telling her like, bro, we need to talked about it because it’s a lot. It’s a lot but yeah, I enjoy It though it was it was it was a lot but it was a fun ride. And there were some cons to it. But like, you know, it is what it is.You just got to wait for season four. See what happens?  Yeah, this is just like a stepping stone season.

Zeke: To get everyone in the right spots.

Gabby: Mm hmm. Because now like, now, like before, I just think of like, season two is like now it’s like we’re in it, but like now season three. We definitely did it. Like, we in it a lot more pressure.

Zeke: So let’s go back to anime.

Gabby: Mm hmm.

Zeke: And so you only got to anime two years ago?

Gabby: Yeah. And and it was because honestly, like, I wasn’t like I got Crunchyroll I would say like, beginning of last year, um, but two years ago, I would say is like I started watching this like Shōjo one. It was like a fantasy Shōjo. I forgot what it was. But I really liked like, yeah, like the animation, and I watched it. subbed. So I have never watched anime dubs before. Which is it’s been it’s been my biggest accomplishment because I am so happy I got into subs first because I really like grew to appreciate like Japan and like Japanese and like how they added like all the different stories and I watched this Shōjo one and I was like this seems like pretty cool like opened up like the different like Crunchyroll library and I started looking and I took a break after a while and then I started watching Hunter Hunter and Hunter Hunter was just because Kat introduced me it. And the Kat was like dude, look at this guy named Hisoka is so good.

Zeke: And like Kat that’s not the character you need to like.

Gabby: Yeah, I was like, wait a minute. He likes Gon yeah, I she showed me that clip of Gon and Hisoka fighting where Hisoka gets turned on. Like, cool I was like let me let’s let’s look into this world of Hunter Hunter and I started watching it and I was like wow but also I feel like I don’t know it was it was also the longest anime I’d ever watched because I stopped so I started Hunter Hunter last year but around like October and then I finished it in December and I didn’t like try to binge it I was just like just watching it on my own time but that Chimera Ark the longest ark I was like, one is this gonna end but it was also like it was it was it was a really really mature arc for me like I looked at it and I was like bro I was not expecting that from like this anime have like gone going like super saiyan and like, you know, killing it really killing almost killing himself killing you know, keto and all of that. And I was like, Whoa, this is a lot But I liked it it was fun like the the openings box, the songs box like it was it was really really fun and that and that kind of like opened up like my thing into anime and then I started I started demon Slayer I haven’t finished it yet. I’m up to like episode like nine like I’m like halfway, almost halfway Um, and then I started doing black clover. Um, and then Kat got me into this show Joe one called Fruits Basket. And that’s kind of been like my biggest thing just because season two is coming out April 6, and I’ve been like rewatching it again. Um, but then I also watched um, hold on I haven’t opened up my Crunchyroll um, yeah, I have a bunch on my queue like I already know which one I want to watch.

Zeke: Your own personal Crunchyroll?

Gabby: I do. Yeah, I pay for my credentials. Um, but I want to watch Food Wars that’s been upcoming like once I once I finished Season Two of Fruits Basket in April. I want to watch Food Wars hopefully finish Demon Slayer  I heard it’s really really good and like I love to episode Yeah, episode nine, so hopefully I’ll be done with that but then I also like I’m thinking if I want to get into My Hero

Zeke: Yeah, great,

Gabby: I know I know y’all talking about My Hero a lot I’m like I want to get into it,

Zeke: Episode 76 oh my oh my god.

Gabby: Um, but I think the one that I don’t know if I will get anytime soon into is like One Piece.

Zeke: Oh 900 and something episodes?

Gabby: No, no, they haven’t. I will wait until they find the one piece and then I will watch it because I’m not trying to wait.Um like I thought Hunter Hunter was a lot for me One Piece I can’t do that. Um, and yeah,

Zeke: Currently we’re quarantined so we have all the time in the world to watch One Piece

Gabby: I have a que I have to like finish all my stuff first then I’ll get into One Piece um yeah and that’s kind of been like my my experience with anime but definitely like the two Shōnen ones I can talk about are Demon Slayer Hunter Hunter. Yeah, like if you want to know more about Shōjo’s you

Zeke: Because I’ve been Shōnen since childhood because after school watching YuGiOh, Pokemon Digimon.

Gabby: Yeah, and like, I was exposed to like, Pokemon and YuGiOh like okay, never Yeah, like around middle school too. Yeah, never like kind of caught on like I knew what like Pokemon cards were like yo cards were like I played a couple times. But I never was like a collector. Like I tried to like know which Pokemon like which like I was one of like middle schoolers, I was like, I just don’t want you to choose and that’s it. But like after, you know, as I was growing up, I like gone into more of like, you know, animation like Pokemon too. And like, I know, I know some I don’t I’m not the best, but, um, yeah, I have found appreciation for like Pokemon and YuGiOh and all of that because they’re pretty much all good. Like not as much but like, I still remember like playing those Pokemon games and I was like, ekans and like, Oddish like different cards and stuff. That was really fun. But yeah, my friend tried to teach me YuGiOh, and I was like, This is way too hard.

Zeke: It’s not that hard.

Gabby: It’s not it’s not. Um, but yeah, I mean, I was like, I was I wasn’t really into it, but I kind of wish I was but what ever

Zeke: I still have the cards stacked around the house in random places. My mom was like you’re wasting money I’m like, I could sell the cards for more money, but no one wants to listen to me.

Gabby: Good, you could Yeah, I remember I was at Comic Con two years ago and they were like selling like, giant giant decks of like YuGiOh cards for like 200 bucks and I was like, I have a couple maybe I can I could get on this wagon and like, try to sell to them but like, now I got like, I tried to ask my dad if I was like we wanted to sell like the Nintendo Wii consoles because they weren’t like they’re in like mint condition. And I was like, no, they’re like, they’re like memorabilia and I was like it’s like they maid to be sold we could literally make money like he was like nah, but yeah I’m I’m a I’m a full on like Zelda fan like I have corniest poster I have. I’ve Link’s Awakening my pride and joy. I love it. Yeah, all all this stuff. And then, um, I knew someone that worked at Nintendo, like Nintendo store for a couple of years. Um, and I was able to kind of like, get like a little ends on like bro when’s his next game? Or like can I get like this like piece of merch or whatever? So I have a lot of like Zelda stuff but then I also have them hold on I have like a Pokemon thing I want I have a little little little Bulbasaur um yeah but I also started watching cuz the thing is like my my Saturday morning was Pokemon like yeah that was my Saturday mornings like I like watch Pokemon everyone that was like boy you didn’t have SpongeBob I was like no Pokemon boy like not like I mean also like… Team Rocket all those lovely people I love them to death but have you watched the the remake of Mewtwo check back on Netflix?

Zeke: Nope

Gabby: Hmm. Do you want it doesn’t interest you or you’re like nah

Zeke: I’m more of a Yugioh person than Pokemon.

Gabby: You’re what I’m sorry. Oh you Yugioh? Huh? Heard you heard you hear? Yeah, I watched the cartoon for you. Yeah, I’ve just watched Pokemon but yeah the thing I hope you do or like the cards, I’m looking cards look nice like that. I was like these cards are great. But yeah, I think what I liked about Pokemon too is like you own Pokemon and all that stuff and that really appealed to me. So that’s why like, I never saw myself like playing Pokemon on the switch until I got Pokemon Shield and I was like this is fun. I like this and then I got Pokemon Let’s Go Eevee Um, and I played that and and now I’m still on Pokemon Sword and Shield.

Zeke: Yeah, yeah. Shōnen anime all day every day. I need people to fight and die.

Gabby: I like both I down for like, the action stuff. I like animes that have a mix of both, like Shōnen and Shōjo. But I also prefer Shōnen like, if you were to ask me like which one I would prefer, like Shōjo or Shōnen , I feel like Shōjo has a lot like, more like cheesy, like romantic tropes of like bubbles and like husbando’s and all that lovely stuff. And as much as I love that, like I also like, like, like a nice action scene, like, you know, one of the scenes in Hunter Hunter, where are you familiar with, like the characters and stuff?  (inaudible) Like the blonde the blonde boy that has short hair? Yeah. Like the change in the red eyes? Yeah, yeah. So there’s a fight scene with him and like, and like another character from one of the arcs. That was like the antagonist, which is like the one of the best that I’ve seen. Oh, yeah, that’s right. Yeah, yeah, like it’s like one of the best like action scenes and I’m like, I appreciate that from showing in like I want some way gore and like some action scenes once in a while. As much as I love like the bubbles and like the romance and stuff like I’m telling for some action scenes. Yeah.

Zeke: Anime nows pretty much main culture.

Gabby: I feel honestly, it’s like, yes. And no, I’ve definitely seen the popularity with anime rise a lot. Like, it’s, I think that’s just like, That’s just a fact. Like, I know, one of the biggest, like things right now is like Crunchyroll and like webtoon which isn’t necessarily it’s not anime, but it’s in. It’s in like, the genre of like, things that you know, you’re not gonna be like, yeah, I’m into webtoons you know, like, I used to be the thing like I know for me back in the day, like, it was really hard for me to be like, yeah, I’m into like anime like when I first when I started watching like that first Shōjo that I wanna I was like yeah I’m into like this like animation like everyone thought it was like cartoons and then I you know once I think like 2018 came with like Sailor Moon and that whole like wave of people, um then animated kind of like shut up until like, like mainstream thing and now there’s like My Hero and Naruto and, and you know Attack on Titan and all these different things and I feel like Crunchyroll was like the main like catalyst for that because I think they were at Comic Con 2017 or 2018 and everyone was like obsessed they were like wait what is this like this is oh yeah anime I remember anime from like, when I was younger then it now it’s it’s pushed so much into mainstream that everyone’s like, yeah, I’m into anime. I like it a lot. And it’s like it’s no longer like taboo, I think.

Zeke: Yes. I, was there.

Gabby: Yeah.

Zeke: I was there.

Gabby: Yeah, it was definitely more of like your into Japanese anime oh my god. And then there’s now it’s just, it’s really mainstream. And there’s so much like, there’s so many tropes that go with it. And like there’s all these fandoms and merge and all these different things that now it’s like, regarded as like, like the biggest genre of like media. Like, if you were to be like, yeah, I’m into this anime people would be like, which one? Where is the Crunchyroll? And like, all these things I remember like when I first started watching it, they’re like, bro, where do you find this stuff? And I was like, because I originally watched that first Shōjo anime on YouTube, and I was watching clips of it. Like, I wasn’t even watching it on Crunchyroll it was until I got the free trial for Crunchyroll that I was like, wait, this is that? That Shōjo anime that I watched and then I started getting more into it. And that’s when I opened myself up into like, the whole library. But yeah, is it mainstream? Absolutely. Um, but I just feel like, you know, there there are people that appreciate it. Like genuinely you know, People that are just like, I’m in it for like the fandom or like, I don’t really know the animal but you know, like this one character and I love her and it’s just like, Are you insane? Because, like, for me at least, like, I’m into anime, but I’m not gonna be like, I know all of it like I can tell you like, I really don’t like I don’t know My Hero. I don’t know Naruto and I’m a be like you know. So that’s why I call myself like a new person anime like, I’m not this like, you know, I’m not like you like, you know all these things. I just like I’m into it and I like it. I’m learning and I’m growing but you know, yeah, I’ve people that are like brah I’m really into anime and I’m like, Alright, name one character for My Hero and then they’re like, the guy with the pointy hair. I’m like, bro, let’s go all right, like, like, I know that. Um, but yeah, it’s jokes. But it’s it’s been really fun to see it grow. And I like the appreciation of it. I think it’s been really really nice. Because now like we get to connect and be like, yo, you

Zeke: Yeah.

Gabby: Do you have um Crunchyroll premium?

Zeke: Oh, Kats. Yeah.

Gabby: I think that’s what Yeah. Like, bro you pay with Kats right? And I was like, I got my own I got my own but it’s good a that seven dollars I love to spend so.

Zeke: Yeah, I wasn’t really using Crunchyroll in high school in college. Like I got the app and then I watch sports anime. I was like where’s this is not basketball. You know what I don’t have money for Crunchyroll at this time. Yeah. So then the I watched the illegal websites allegedly.

Gabby: Heard you. I think the one that I used to use was like kiss anime or anime, or whatever. That was one that I that I used to use, but, um, and then I also got into when I was younger I got into the Studio Ghibli films. Yeah. was like Castle in the Sky. Delivery service like I have like my dad had those and he’s still does on like VHS. Like that was how old? Again, that’s how old like, I was I still had VHS C’s. Um, but that was like my first thing until like, the style of anime. Yeah. This is like, it’s not like the Disney’s or the Cartoon Networks or the Nickelodeon’s of the time where you can, you know, like, the eyes are a lot more bigger and like typical, you know, yeah. But, um, I really liked you know, like, I think that was what’s kind of clicked for me when I first started watching anime. And I was like, wait, this is a lot like, you know, those Studio Ghibli films that I watched. And that’s like, also the only time the first time I watched something in dub was the dub version, a Studio Ghibli film, and I was like, This is horrible. I need to watch it in japanese.

Zeke: Nah dub all the way, dub wins.

Gabby: But I feel like not honestly some dubs are very good. I’ve heard like for certain animals like the dubs are very very good, but nah fam like I was I was at Baruch and someone was watching I think Demon Slayer in dubbed and I was like y’all are sins y’all are sinners I cannot believe you because like the openings are awesome in in subversion or like in Japanese and they’re like, yeah it’s like

Zeke: I like to understand and watch at the same time and not miss things

Gabby: I was it was funny cuz I was talking to one of our other co workers in Paws Thomas he’s also watching Hunter Hunter too but watches it in dub. And I was like you’re crazy

Zeke: Smart man.

Gabby: Is like bro I want to like I don’t have to worry about looking at my phone watch like, I think he was trying to like, do something. And he’s like, want to make sure I could pay attention to what I’m hearing and I was like that’s the point of subtitles, bro. You pay attention. You look down but like, for me it’s easy to watch in subs, like I don’t have to worry about like I know everyone’s like well it’s in Japanese and I’m like I can kinda understand like some, like my Japanese has definitely excelled because of like, anime. It’s been really fun like I’ve said like gomenasai so many times I just say like random, like phrases but I’m just like I learned from anime, but like I wouldn’t have that if I watched it in dub you know, but

Zeke: (inaudible)

Gabby: Yeah cuz I think that was that was my friends also like the big fake news like I don’t know what’s going on half the time because it’s in Japanese that’s the point of subtitles bro but um yeah I mean yeah I’ve heard dubs for some animes are really really good and I’m just like to each their own you do you but like I’ll stick with my subs over here. Oh yeah the it’s it’s fun though it’s really fun I like anime a lot.

Zeke: Super was out and I didn’t have Crunchyroll so I had to watch it on YouTube And then it took it down by YouTube.

Gabby: That was one that I never understood Dragon Ball

Zeke: I mean I had the game so

Gabby: Yeah but like I never like I think also though, with Yugioh too because I would watch cuz for Saturday mornings like Pokemon came first and then it was Yugioh and then it was I think it was Dragon Ball then Naruto like that that was like the lineup for me. I forgot what channel it was on the link. I like after Pokemon like Yugioh would come on. I’m just like, I don’t understand… the channel. So then when I saw like the anime on Crunchyroll I was like, I just know Goku. So I was like, I’m gonna just leave it at that. Like I know who one of the characters are as it like, I just know Dragon Ball from the memes to be honest.

Zeke: Goku a terrible father.

Gabby: Yeah, that’s all I know. That’s it.

Zeke: Cuz I had the games and I believe Budokai Tenkaichi series and like if you play the music, I still remember it and be so go back to those times.

Gabby: You heard you heard you Yeah, I think that’s that’s what I love about anime too is that like the there’s some parts of it that are like so memorable that you’re like bro I remember like the song and like the opening like I can sing really really badly the Hunter Hunter opening and it’s it’s just it’s just me singing really bad Japanese but um it’s a bop and it’s like sometimes like I’ll hear it and I’ll be like, bro I’m like it it’s like you know it’s like the the kidding me all over again. Yeah, I like that I’m able to watch a show that like, just makes me like feel so much like, I know I was watching Hunter Hunter like my heart was just going through so much that I was like bro like, don’t like Hisoka then Gon and Hisoka just Hisoka. Made me feel so many different things. I was like, wait, he is he a pedo

Zeke: Pretty sure he is.

Gabby: But I heard he’s like power sexual. Like he’s not like, he doesn’t like Gon in that way because he’s a kid. I think he likes Gon because how much power he has. But that’s a whole nother conversation. Because I remember when I was when I was taught, like when I first saw him, I was like, bro, this kid likes 13 year old boys. Like, this guy likes these two boys. But then I started watching it like I watched, you know, his character develop and I was like, Okay, I see some. But I think also that’s what I love about anime too is that they focus to develop all the characters like they don’t just focus on like,

Zeke: Sometimes.

Gabby: Yeah, yeah.

Zeke: Naruto, no, not at all.

Gabby: That that that’s what I’ve heard. Yeah, I was like, my friend watched like everything in Naruto and he was like, the side character, they get nothing, just Naruto like, it’s all just about him.

Zeke: One character called Tenten she gets she has no personality. You know her name. That’s it. She has like two fight three fights.

Gabby: But uh, yeah, I at least with Hunter Hunter though, like they, like, I didn’t see bone for the entirety of one of the arcs because they were developing, like one of the side characters and I was like, I appreciate that because, like, the fact that they’re trying to adapt it from the manga, and like making sure that it stays true to the content of the manga. I was like, shout out to that, but yeah, there are some anime though that like don’t don’t relate to the manga at all. Like I forgot which one it was, but like, I watched it, and I was like, bro, this is not this is not the manga isn’t the animators and be like, manga like whatever. But yeah, I heard Naruto does like nothing.

Zeke: I remember watching Naruto from elementary. And then when it end I also graduated high school I was like, oh my god I grew up with Naruto.

Gabby: Huh that’s cool. Cool.

Zeke: Naruto it’s Tenten Naruto to the swing that Naruto was on gets more screen time then Tenten. But how was it? How was it have like a parent that into the same things that you are?

Gabby: Hmm. Wait how was it to have a what I’m sorry?

Zeke: Parent that’s in this, a parent that’s into the same thing that you are?

Gabby: I think it’s, it’s cool. Um, I feel like Sorry, my computer’s lagging um, but I I feel like it’s cool. Um, I think one of the biggest things that like I grew up with my dad with was like video games. And like, I definitely would not be into all this if it wasn’t for my dad. But it’s fun like, I’ve I’ve heard some parents will I try to make a weird then they’re like, yeah My daughter and I are playing video games. But like, I’ve also like, I’ve also brushed past the side, but like, it’s my dad. Like, it’s fun, like, especially now that they were like, we have a lot more time to do that. So and he like, I think what’s like really nice for me is that he kind of turned to like a little kid again. And he’s like, Yeah, I remember like fighting these guys and like, he’ll, like, he’ll like he’s very emotional like I am. So will like he’ll be trying to fight like one of the guys and I’ll be like, come on, like, let’s just kill him. And he’ll like, he’ll, like, try to cheer me on while I’m trying to like Fight. Fight this like, like these bad guys. Um, and that’s been really fun for me like it’s been really nice. So I think it’s cool. I know some people will be like, is weird. I mean, it’s only weird if you make it weird. Yeah, you know, and but it’s been really cool. But um, yeah, like I definitely like my dad doesn’t like the switch it’s weird for him like he likes having like the one controller that he can play on the television. He doesn’t like

Zeke: The Joy-Cons.

Gabby: Yeah, he’s like, I just just leave me with like, I think the last console that he played was like the Wii. Yeah. Like I

Zeke: My pro controller my Gamecube controller.

Gabby: Yeah, so like that controller. He prefers that. Yeah. Um, he doesn’t like the Joy-Cons says they too tiny, like, how do you how do you play this? And I’m like, well, you attach it to the switch. And then, um, but yeah, I definitely think I’m playing with him. It’s been it’s been really fun. It’s just like having like, someone like to cheer you on and you can talk about it too. Like, I was trying to explain him the whole timeline and he was like, This is confusing. I don’t know how you keep up with it. But um, it’s Yeah, it’s been really fun. And I really appreciate that like, he chose to open it up to me and that I was like, so open to receive it. We easily could have been like, this is stupid and just kind of get away with like, Like it’s it’s a part of me that like I really am happy that I kind of got into it because now I’m able to like, because yeah, I can’t imagine like not being an adult like not being into games. Like it’s weird. Like when I like when I see myself like trying to play Overwatch or like I play Mortal Kombat. I’m like, dude, imagine if I wasn’t into that. Like I can like it’s been really fun. So yeah, I really appreciate like my dad, like, being able to open this up to me and like, kind of open up this like, new new world that I was like, so happy to be part of and like, it’s really been a part of my life. Like, I know all the games. I know all the lore. Um, I have like, I have this like computer case this these are the champions from Breath of the Wild. And it’s been like really cool. And it’s like using being a nerd. Like I love it. It’s fun.

Zeke: Yeah, I had that luxury. My mom was not into the same things I’m into so I try to explain to her like yeah, do your thing. (inaudible) Yelling at me on Saturday morning waking up early to watch the cartoon she’s yelling at me to go to sleep.

Gabby: Yeah, because I didn’t have cable bro like I did not I did not have you know, Cartoon Network. I mean, I had Cartoon Network at my cousin’s house like I had Pokemon like I had, you know, a little bit of Yugioh that I would try to watch but I wouldn’t get it. But like that was what I had and I you know, you got to work when you get Yeah. Like obviously the kids that have cable and be like, I like SpongeBob and Fairly Oddparents and like, you know, we do too but like we weren’t watching that Saturday we were watching Yugioh  we were watching Pokemon so you know, we worked with so

Zeke: Yeah, channel seven with ABC with those cartoons, the Warner Brothers, 4kids

Gabby: We PBS Kids on the good old days, right like I remember watching like Sesame Street in the morning, like what that was like and I was really young. Um Cyberchase like, all public public television programs you don’t have cable but you gotta get over what you had to work with

Zeke: And when cartoons go off you had to watch adult shows.

Gabby: Yo cuz that was like Nick at night was like That 70 Show like I think that was like it was the the show. But I wouldn’t really watch it like I would I would just stick to my cartoons I remember like channel 13 channel 21 all those Oh, yeah.

Zeke: Youngins don’t know about that the days.

Gabby: They just know about like, from like, Oh, we go up like Cyberchase. You got to appreciate like

Zeke: Dragon Tales.

Gabby: Dragon Tails was my shit. But what else um

Zeke: Maya & Miguel.

Gabby: I know I still know that theme song I’m like Yeah, like it was three to like 5pm like three to six. Yeah, that was the timeframe because then they started showing the news and I was like like not the same anymore like I got a wait to the next morning.

Zeke: If you missed the episode you missed the episode we have the internet back in the day.

Gabby: Yeah that’s it you couldn’t go you know I try to download that because I was like when they had like a bit like didn’t even have iPhones yet they have that did not have internet and then you had to wait to like the iPod Touch and that had iTunes on it. Bro like you have to burn the DVD the CDs just to like get them onto your computer. Nah man, like I didn’t have my first like I had my first iPod but that was because I want it at a giveaway like I didn’t even like it because I want it and it wasn’t it was the iPod Nano like like the really wide with. You had to like swivel with like your thumb within a circle. That was the only one and I had to tell my dad to burn like some CDs I wanted to get it on iTunes because that was all we had. We just had a CD. Um, but yeah, that was that was fun and then I got the iPod Touch which was like a big one. Yeah. That I was like it was a it was just a button at the bottom and that was like the big thing. Um, what do you know when you got your first phone? Do you ever when you bought your first like cell phone?

Zeke: Sixth grade. I got a cell phone was a red cellphone the amount of times I lost it was a good number.

Gabby: Yeah, I lost. Um, my first like smartphone was like in eighth grade and I got the I got a Samsung Galaxy S four. And that was like that was a big thing. And then I lost it the day before spring break. And my dad was like, we got to get a new phone, but I had so many pictures and like so many things in it. And I was devastated someone stole it, by the way, cuz I made sure that was in my backpack. All right, and then I didn’t I did like a presentation because class was over and my phone was not there. And I was like, I don’t My phone is blah and I bet you to this day like, there but then I got my iPhone. I got the um, I got the color the first colored iPhones, I was like blue yellow. That was like the five or something. I got the iPhone five. And then I was like, bro, this is this is a mini laptop.

Zeke: My first smartphone was eighth grade with a Blackberry.

Gabby: Oh my god, I remember Blackberries. My dad had a Blackberry for work and like, just like I’m like scrolling with like little bubbles. And I was like this is fun.

Zeke: I had a BBM

Gabby: Work phone. Oh, but yeah, I think the first I think the first like actual phone that I saw like ever was the the Motorola razor, which I heard they’re bringing back like they want to bring it back because that was like the number one was like

Zeke: I had the Nokia phone. I’ll have to remember why the Nokia phone that brick phone was indestructible.

Gabby: Oh, yeah. The giant one the, like, take out the antenna. Was it like though?

Zeke: No, like,

Gabby: Oh, the smaller one.

Zeke: Yes the smaller one.

Gabby: Yeah, cuz I was talking to my aunt about about like cell phones, like a couple months ago. And she had like, the one that the bar the antenna and it was like a giant waking up to your chin. And I was like, um, yeah, it’s crazy how like, the younger like, this generation won’t really know what like we all have in order to get in order to communicate and get our entertainment. Like remember when MySpace was a thing like MySpace, music,

Zeke: That kind of stuff. I skipped straight to Facebook,

Gabby: Hmm. Yeah, I didn’t, I didn’t use MySpace like as a social like social media account, I use it for its music because they had like its own music library that I could access from like my crusty like Lenovo. My mom had to bring from work. Um, and then I got my first Facebook account when I was 14 13n14. Um, and I was like, I should have used a better username because Gabby 21 EXO love or whatever. Um, and it’s like it. I cringe when Facebook shows me like the memories. And it was like, What was it? It was like, oh, like my status for a tbh but you know their bring that back now. With like all the quarantine they’re like, bro, we’re all bored. So like, like my status for a rate and I’ll rate you and I’m like, y’all need to stop. We’re not gonna leave that dead.

Zeke: You look back to your old post like oh I was stupid back in the day.

Gabby: I really was I was I was some brain cells were not flowing. Because I literally posted a picture like on my feet of like me, I don’t know if you remember but like this this was like mid 2000s where I had like my hair in my face and I was like this and I was like, I love my friends and I was what was I on?

Zeke: Acid?

Gabby: Um, yeah, I was like, What? What was what was up with me? Yeah, I’m happy I got out of that stage. I also had braces when I first started using Facebook. So I you you you could conduct electricity with my braces. All right, I had like the really big braces that you needed like a little head piece here for because I had um, I had an overbite. So I had really it was it was not it was it was not. I’m happy I got them off but yeah. It was fun though. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.

Zeke: All the mistakes.

Gabby: Yeah, cuz you gotta you know, you gotta. You gotta know what your mistakes are. Yeah.

Zeke: You’re the same age as my brother. So you guys will see guys. 9inaudible) because we state a date and I get confused so my things are earlier. Cuz I’m older and I was like oh wait, he was also there technically.

Gabby: Yeah I’m the youngest, my sister. I have an older sister. She’s older than me, although maybe two years. Okay. Yeah. So she’s 21 and I’m 19 So, um, yeah, we grew up really, really close together. So it’s like, everyone’s like, Well, yeah, but you’re just you’re like new different things and you did the same stuff. Like it’s not like if I had like, like a slip A three or four year older sibling the later you can see the difference in like how they grew up like knives is the same stuff. Yeah, my brother is four years younger than me. Hmm, yeah, so definitely you’re gonna see a bigger a bigger Yeah.

Zeke: Cuz we have similar memories but there’s a spread. Mm hmm you heard you Yeah. My dad has a sister. She’s 13 I was like, yeah, you are your child.

Gabby: Yeah, I think my my cousin’s, my little cousins are like that age. Because I, I was like, probably like seven or eight when they were babies. So now they’re like, 15 like 14 15 and they’re all into like the Tik Tok’s and all that lovely stuff. And I’m just like, Yo, I’m old. I am Jesus Christ. Like I never seen myself saying like, bro, I’m a freaking like Boomer man. Like, y’all are like these different dances and stuff and like Don’t know, like, like for a 19 year old, like, I see myself as like, I don’t act as like a like as an 18 year old should like I’ve been told that I act and I think that’s just like, I don’t know, like I don’t I don’t notice it myself but like, everyone says that I act differently because technically like even kids my age should be in still like the whole Tik Tok thing and like shouldn’t be into that, but I’m not gonna make a tick anytime soon, but some kids are, and I’m just like, you do yo

Zeke: You know what? I don’t have to keep up, I can let the internet go past me.

Gabby: Yeah, yeah, I’m like, I’m down like a Tik Tok account. I just won’t do it. Like on my own. You know, like, I’m like, it’s not like, like, I hate it. I’m just like, yo, y’all do you I’m almost a few of my anime names. I’ll be I’ll be on this side.

Zeke: When we get older, we like back in my day

Gabby: I survived a pandemic, all right. You cannot fake being sick to go to school.

Zeke: I was there for 911

Gabby: Mm hmm. Yeah, I was. I was a year old.

Zeke: I was in school. I remember nothing. But I was in school. Yeah.

Gabby: Yeah, I had um, I had one guy in one of the office up room cuz he saw my my Degree Works and he was like, bro you were born in 2000. I was like, Yeah, I was. And he was like, bro, you don’t remember 911?

Zeke: Like, maybe.

Gabby: What does that have to do with my age? Like I don’t like I get it. Like why is that example? Yeah, I was Hello, but um, yeah, like I was, I was Yeah, I grew up like to thousands and I’m But yeah, I see the younger generation. I’m just like, Oh, you were literally like, babies and now you’re teenagers. We all turned 21 I’m gonna be like, in my early 30s and I’m like, What? What is happening?

Zeke: Life is going so fast and I’m get old.

Gabby: Yeah, like even like this year like I’m about to turn 20 and I’m like, Where did all this time go? between three? Yeah, dude like, and you wonder you’re like, Where did Where did all this go? Like what?

Zeke: Like I like being this age to have more freedom and I’m smarter, but also just being young and having time to do things.

Gabby: Yeah, yeah that’s the biggest drawback I feel like now like even like with my cousins or like they’ll, they’ll be messaging me and they’ll be like, hey, like let’s have time to hang out and stuff and I’m like, boy, I’m in college. I did not have time to play with you all, but it’s like I miss having that time though. Like, I remember like, when I was younger and like we would just hang out like at my cousin’s house and just like, excuse me just like you know, play video games or like play ball or something like that like something really, really small. But you had that interaction, you know, with your family at the time. And now with like, work and school and like, paying bills, and like literally what adults do like yourself in that cycle, you’re just like, No, I want to go back.

Zeke: And this is this is life. This is it this ain’t it.

Gabby: This is an adult. I remember used to be like, bro, I want to be like, like, free and I want to have my own freedom and like be on my own. And I’m just like, I have it, but I also don’t want a lot, a lot of responsibility. Um, which is like, you know, you can’t get both you got to choose one or the other. So yeah, but it is what it is. And you got to deal with it. But yeah, how has the how has this affected you so far? Like all of this?

Zeke: Oh, I’ve been working from home this week. Okay, that’s good. It does suck when I had to wake up early in the morning and then wait for somebody to not show up for tutoring. It was oh, I could have been sleep.

Gabby: Damn  yikes I probably didn’t work from home too but it’s like I had to wait for my supervisor to email me like I need to do when I’m just like you could just told me last night and I would have like been wait like I wouldn’t open up and like do my work. I gotta wake up for 12pm shift that I gotta wait till 1:30 because when she emails me and I’m just like, I ended at four. But you know, you you got to get it done. You can get paid

Zeke: It’s good I don’t have to travel so I can wake up an hour later.

Gabby: Yeah, also like this. This whole thing has been really good for my wallet. Man. I paid off my bills. I have money now. And I’m just like, I want to go out and do stuff, but I can’t get I gotta say. But I think one of the biggest thing too is like the classes like I know cheney has been taking a lot of like, yeah, a lot of really, really big measures, like I know today, they just know so they’re going to do like another break.

Zeke: Right I was like, guys, I need money. Stop giving them breaks.

Gabby: I know. Like, zoom is like really, really bad for a lot of classes. Like I know my friend on Instagram. She’s she said that her CIS class, like, they have like 50 people on time, but like zoom keeps crashing. Yeah, cuz everyone’s on trying to learn like all the different like programs and stuff. Like they’re literally being in the class with zoom crashes and like, my friend was like, dude, my computer crashed like four times during class and I was like, Wow. So they’ve been complaining to CUNY. So genies like having some having this other break, so I try to figure it out. And like, hopefully, if given the work, I personally think like, they should just do like a pass or fail. Because like, I know it hurts you though, because you don’t want to be like, I know it’s gonna hurt you. But um, I just, I don’t know, I just feel like it’s alive for you. Like I know, for me, I have a group communicating. I’m doing and it’s based on presentations only. So my professor wants us to do a live zoom Chat panel with like, seven like other people, including myself, our topic and I’m like, you want us to talk for 45 minutes? I’m like, I’m good, but I don’t know. We’ll see how it goes. I was gonna ask like about classes but I forgot.

Zeke: I have my degree. But my brotherI don’t know, he seems to be okay.

Gabby: Okay, yeah, your brother’s four years. So is he still in?

Zeke: He’s a freshman

Gabby: In high school?

Zeke: He’s at Baruch with you guys.

Gabby: Oh, okay, gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, I was thinking like high school senior college freshmen because like, he can’t be that young, you know, like in high school, but Okay, cool. Yeah. How’s his class has been?

Zeke: Oh, I don’t know, I guess he’s doing fine.

Gabby: You know, I feel that I feel Yeah, my sister. This is her last semester.

Zeke: Oh, that sucks.

Gabby: Yeah. Bro, there’s no ceremony or anything. And I’m like, yeah. Not that person to like, She’s like, she doesn’t like she’s not worried about like, the ceremony. She’s just like, bro I’m trying to get out of here. Like,

Zeke: That was me last semester or two semesters ago. Like, yo, I’m just trying to get out, man. Okay.

Gabby: Yeah, but she has a full time job though. So.

Zeke: Oh, nice.

Gabby: Yeah, so even though she’s not like working, they were like, bro just at home. Like don’t worry about getting paid like we’ll pay you. So she’s been like, she’s already settled with that. And now you like worrying about, like, like, she also has classes on zoom too, but like they’re easy. Like, the thing is like with my classes, like I’m taking three classes this year, and two of them, there’s simple, they’re like audio PowerPoints, and you just don’t, you’re fine. I’m like bed, but then it’s just one professor. That’s like, we got to do 9:45 to 12. And if you’re not at the zoom meeting, she wants you to write an essay lecture and it’s two pages. And she wants you to reference like with the time like she wants you to be like, at 11 minutes in like 42 seconds. You talked about like virtual teamwork and I’m like, Wow, you are wild. I cannot. The fact that you want kids to do this because some kids can’t go like some kids have trouble connecting to zoom. Yeah. Your webcams are also she wants to take she wants to see our faces, so she wants us to turn on our webcams. I’m like, Ma’am, I look horrible this morning. About to just be like, in a full on hood just like what’s up? No, like, No, I’m not going through that. But I don’t know, I’ve been doing good so far I haven’t gone to class. It’s just some guys like I feel bad because they like they, they genuinely cannot go into zoom, but they’re getting penalized.

Zeke: Yeah.

Gabby: You have no control of but yeah,

Zeke: I’m not having all my classes really great is that dual classes where you could do the two rooms the same Professor so you do the homework at the end of semester, which I kept doing. Except for last though that my last semester. my homework was due the last day of class, not the last year finals. And I found that out during finals. And seven assignments, I was like, Oh, I’m missing seven assignments.

Gabby: Yikes.

Zeke: So that weekend I was like let me do them email the professor Hey, professor see I had your class last semester. And it was the same rules. It’s not the same rules.

Gabby: But yeah, yeah. They changed a bunch of the deadlines now like now the last day to drop the class is the last day of class. And like the last day to apply for like a pass, like, you know, pass or fail option is a lot day class, but I’m like, if you’re stuck with it for two months, and then you decide to drop it like really? Yeah, like, you really got to drop it after you spent, like, working on it. Like I wouldn’t know a while but yeah, I just I hope they do something that is equitable for everybody. And it just doesn’t just benefit like me personally. Like, I’m lucky that I don’t have any problems. Yeah, whatever. But I know some of the kids are like, are like, even like they can’t like they don’t have their own laptop. Like they gotta hear their laptop with like, another college kid who also has a class and like, it’s hard. Um, you know, kids that don’t have their own laptops, things like that. They don’t have Wi Fi. So you got to take into account all of that. Like, I know Kat was telling me she was like, Yeah, I had, you know, I think the renting system approved wild for her because they had they only had like single day or seven day left, and obviously would like, she wasn’t gonna come back and seven days to go return like a laptop and they’re like, well, there’s nothing we can do on our end. So I think now what they’re trying to do is like do like monthly rentals, so you can have it for a month. Yeah. You know, I just hope they work it out. Like Well, it’s not just doesn’t just benefit like one group of people, you know? Yeah. It’s a lot, but I just know we have another break. So that’s fine. Great. Yeah, great falls on the day of my presentation. It’s It’s fun. I was like, I was telling the Lord, I was like, please don’t let me present. They’re, like, break for you. You don’t got to present no more. So we got to see she’s my Tuesday, Thursday class, so we got to wait till Thursday to see what she says.

Zeke: I was like, Oh, so we’ll lose another week of money. Okay, I guess. Yeah.

Gabby: But I’m happy they were able to work it out for you, though. Like being able to work from home.

Zeke: Oh, yeah.

Gabby: Like, we can’t do that. For you, because if like school isn’t open, then you don’t work now I was like, Damn, I’m happy it worked out for you. (inaudible)Go get money. Yeah my mom is working from home too. She hates it. She was like, do I need to be back to like my, like, do this because it’s like it’s distracting you know you’re gonna be at home. You got your family around you trying to you know, ask for things and we brought on like literally working with somebody. I can’t do this.

Zeke: Mother at work. She working. She works in the day, so.

Gabby: Oh, cool how is she?

Zeke: She’s really she just clean so she’s just being careful. Yeah, she works at housing.

Gabby: Okay, okay. Yeah, just everybody’s getting sick, man. Like, it’s like, and I think what’s scary to me at least is that like the symptoms are so common. Like Yeah, yeah, like, like, you know, you’ve got it. It’s like you could literally have like allergies. I literally like sneeze one time.

Zeke: My throat feels type different. Am I, okay.

Gabby: Um, yeah, it’s literally like like Mr. Krabs meme

Zeke: Right now but it’s not corona symptoms, more allergy symptoms.

Gabby: That’s the thing, yo cuz it’s spring like I woke up this morning with like a runny nose and like, you know, like the allergy symptoms and my dad was like, bro you good, be okay.

Zeke: And that’s why I call so I’m like, are you okay?

Gabby: You just throw like sanitizer, like um, yeah, no this is it’s a lie I just I hope it gets done hope it goes away soon. I don’t think it’s gonna go away like beginning of May to be honest.

Zeke: I’m scared it’s gonna go away in the summer and then we are going to get to hype and then come back in winter. I’m just like, Guys

Gabby: Imagine if it does, bro.

Zeke: Yeah, there’s another virus in China. There’s another strain of bird flu on this I God God I can’t deal with this

Gabby: Like, like like to be honest like the whole thing I think the biggest like impacted like one of them that it has on the environment and like the environments doing so well like I don’t know um, like the steel levels in like down the head the sky yeah hitting okay then it went back up I’m like y’all I don’t get it. I feel like Mother Nature was like bro we gotta y’all y’all need to be stopped.

Zeke: Every hundred years of my fight back yeah to be I’ll find the person who made the who made I meme first of all. What do you know that I don’t know?

Gabby: What happened did the meteor really kill the dinosaurs?

Zeke: Because yesterday me and T was talking and um things need to change cuz like next month I’m scared man.

Gabby: Wait why what you mean?

Zeke: Cuz every month something happened world war three, Kobe’s death Pot Smokes death this,

Gabby: Yeah I don’t know. Oh my god went with them when Pop Smoke died. I was like yo Pop Smoke got pop smoked and I was like,

Zeke: Too soon, too soon.

Gabby: Too soon, yeah it was it was literally like 15 minutes and when he died I was like, bro you chill. But yeah, we just we got to see what April like I heard de Blasio saying that he’s probably not going to let schools back this year like everyone like they originally had like a time was like April 20. Yeah, like he was like, yo, the way this is going is not it’s not gonna happen. Also, cuz like you see how horribly prepared the US was like, Yeah, like the US government and like everything was like, not prepared. deal with this like,

Zeke: No, we could have dealt with this in January. Living nice and simple. Yo, we was already home while I was working, but I could have took them off. Hmm.

Gabby: Yeah. And I think, you know, there’s still some people that like don’t practice social distancing. And I’m like, dude, What are y’all doing man? doing? Like, I feel like I post this on my story too or like I feel like you know, I’m in kindergarten or like a middle Yeah. recess to start but it’s like two people that like don’t pay attention pay attention or I’ll who will literally not survive um, that’s what I feel like at this point and also just like the racism that goes behind it and like everything that’s going on with like Asian people, man like, it’s crazy. Like it’s not the Chinese virus like it’s it’s the Coronavirus, and it affects everybody, no matter what you know, about me a miracle. Honestly, I’m really surprised that nothing has been developed yet. Like with me that goes into like the pharmaceuticals and like the drug industry, like nothing has been developed.

Zeke: Well, they don’t they skip the animal trials, they’re doing human trials now. But it takes still takes so long to do all the testing all the research, because like, this is so SSRS is took that research and put into here. So now the challenge is testing, everybody trying to test their version of it to see if it works. So there’s sort of three different phases. So the first phase so either way to get the third phase where everything to like to prove that works.

Gabby: Hmm, okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because we want to make sure that it actually helps people it doesn’t like hurt them.

Zeke: Does this actually give them Corona, oh, no.

Gabby: Yeah. Yeah. And then yeah, they were talking about how like, they in the beginning like they thought dogs could get into and everyone was like, well, whoever has dog like, you need a you know, whatever. It is the only time I go outside is to walk my dog, the thing is like the park that I go to has become so filled with people that also walk their dogs. So it’s like, I’m trying to maintain social distance. Like come and touch my dog and I’m like, bro 6 feet like, you got to get away. Um,

Zeke: Two dogs died in Hong Kong.

Gabby: Yeah, yeah, I was talking with T about it yesterday and I was like, bro like, I’m trying to walk my dogs here and people be like, Oh my god, they’re so pretty. I’m like, bro 16 men like to wash my hand like wash your hands before you come and touch me and Um, but yeah, I think a lot of people are starting to get it and like I think now I heard that New York City was like labeled as like the Center for the crisis in the US. Most testing Yeah, but I heard that we also have like the most cases like, like state to have like the most like I think we have like 10,000 plus cases. Now.

Zeke: Cuz we do the most testing. Cuz I think what happened was his claim was got out already. And then most people have it already. Or had it. Yeah. And then it just sucks because like, it’s like people are dying randomly. And you can’t really get a grasp on it. And it was like, man, I need answers.

Gabby: Yeah, I think that that’s that’s really like the biggest like tragedy too is that like, there? I heard that. Because Italy has so many, like the elderly people that their bodies really can’t handle it. And they die very quickly. Because they’re like, you know, if you take like a body of like a nine year old man versus a body of like a 20 year old person, like, who you’re going to try to save. Yeah. And it’s, it’s horrible that like it’s had to come to that. But it’s like so like, I remember two days ago or like yesterday, like almost 70 people died in one day and I was like, what is going on with those execution numbers? Yeah, it really is. Like it’s you know, it’s a lot of people Um, you know, and it’s a lot especially Yeah, cuz Italy has so many elderly people

Zeke: And the smoke. Yeah. And they very affectionate. It’s almost like y’all was not meant for this.

Gabby: Yeah, I feel like too. Yeah, I think the people that don’t practice you know, staying at home or social distancing, like you’re in for it like, I saw this video of like this group of teens that like they went to Florida first. Yeah, and not everybody in

Zeke: Florida has it.

Gabby: Right bro all those kids tested positive and I was like, literally, like, I like the article that I saw that like said that they were all positive. It was like, congratulations, you played yourself and yeah, honestly, like, it’s a lot. It’s a lot, but we got to see like, how everything is how everything is going to come back. Hopefully everything comes back and You gotta keep moving forward.

Zeke: You have to use the time to learn to learn how to program.

Gabby: Cool, that’s good.

Zeke: Time to make a website for the podcast,

Gabby: Sam Yeah, learn new stuff. I think that’s like the biggest thing too. Like, I’ve been trying to learn how to code. I want to like, I’ve been taking like free classes online. And I’m learning new stuff like this. Like, I think before time was like, the thing that we know we didn’t have. And now that we have so much we don’t know what to do with it. Yeah. And that’s, that’s been kinda like, I’m seeing on Instagram. They’re like, yeah, thanks to do while you’re working from home and I was like, Guys, we always have had 24 hours in the day, you know? Like, it’s, some of them were asleep. And the rest were for like work in school. So like, what can we do? Now that we have all this time on our hands? You know, we saw the same hours for sleep. You know, that’s that hasn’t changed. But yeah, like learn new things. Um, you know, looking up on the socials and I just learned today brakes on the news because I watched the news too much. Unfortunately.

Zeke: Yeah, that gave me I get sick last week watching the news.

Gabby: Mm hmm, so much information and you’re just like like my brain literally like I had to like turn on my TV verse I can just like breathe because I was like I’m learning too much all at once and I was like this is like literally I had like an overload in my brain knows like, I can’t do this but yeah, thankfully like I have a backyard in my house I live

Zeke: Must be nice.

Gabby: Yeah, that’s that’s the outside air that I’m getting out of my house at all. Um, but yeah, I heard if you have like a window, you can open it if you have like a balcony, you can get on it

Zeke: Live on the 14th floor in the project. So you know the well.

Gabby: You can open a window I know, some apartments, they don’t allow you in a window. Because I know my my cousin he’s on like, like the 25th floor of like one of the buildings and like all his windows are locked and I was like, you feel

Zeke: Like nobody’s going to jump today.

Gabby: Yeah, not not today. Not today. But yeah, and I think it’s weird because they were like, you can go outside. But also like, don’t go outside. So I’m like, What? Like, which one is it? Like, go outside and get fresh air, but you can’t go like to public places, which like makes sense. But yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, like, I have the groceries this weekend. I don’t know how that’s gonna be. It’ll be fun, but I’ll update it on that.

Zeke: Yeah.

Gabby: I have a picture on my phone where like, I went grocery shopping two weeks ago, like before everything kind of went down.

Zeke: Yeah.

Gabby: It was like it was empty.

Zeke: I just like how, like three weeks ago, everything was normal.

Gabby: Yeah, look at that. If you can see it. Well,

Zeke: Yeah.

Gabby: Like that. Like that was the shelf of The toilet paper roll like being was there. Also like why toilet paper? That’s my biggest question Like what? Like, I understand why paper but also like why toilet paper? Like out of everything you can get, like I saw two two guys in Australia. They wanted to sell toilet paper for like $600 on Amazon but Amazon wouldn’t let them so they started burning toilet paper posted it online everyone was like bro, what’s wrong with you guys like people need toilet paper? It was because Amazon wouldn’t let them sell it for that high of a price because he wanted to make money I was like, I don’t like jerks man.

Zeke: That’s a Zicklin major.

Gabby: That is a finance major. Oh, but um Yeah, yeah, you got any more questions are like we just we just chillin

Zeke: We just chillin.

Gabby: All right, cool. Cool, but this was fun. Thank you

Zeke: (inaudible)

Gabby: Yeah and like my apologies for like not being my time. Yeah, really happy to do this. This is fun. Thank you.

Zeke: So I guess we ending So last question always axes origin Angel Oh sorry.

Gabby: Would I name my origin story? These are good questions you might give me think at 11:31 at night What was the name of my origin story be? Um I would say the Adventure of Gabby as corny as it is, um because I feel like every every path is an adventure and you get to know different things. learn things as you go on and you can always save and go back to the beginning, if you want to. Yeah, yeah, the adventures of Gabby.

Zeke: So that’ll be the end of that episode. Nice

Gabby: Thank you so much.

Zeke: No problem.

Gabby: All right, have a good night.

Zeke:  You too. See you.

Zeke: That brings another episode of the Let’s Gather Podcast to a close. I would like to thank Gabby for coming on the podcasts. For next week I have an attorney named Zamair Ben-Dan to talk about the justice system as a whole. I hope you continue to have a nice day and hope to see you there. 

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