In this episode Zeke speaks with his friend Alex about protesting and the current state of the United States.
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Alex: Ever heard of Frederick Frederick Nietzsche?
Zeke: Probably
Alex: Like a philosopher. And he, I think it was here. I hope I’m not wrong. I’m wrong. I’m terrible philosophy minor. But he said, if humanity got everything they wanted, they got cakes. And they got to eat whatever they wanted and have whatever they wanted it all things worked out for them all the time. Some motherfucker would just start breaking shit. Just for something interesting happen. Yeah, some nigga will just start going crazy dusty be like, Yo, this shit was born my nigga. You gotta gotta shake this bitch up. Somebody who’s gonna be the bad guy. Someone is gonna be the bad guy just because.
Zeke: It’s like the person who brings a gun to the party.
Alex: Yo, exactly. It’s, it’s, that’s a fucking perfect point, bro. Is the nigga who brings a gun to the party. Why do you need that?
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Zeke: I like to welcome everyone to another episode of the Let’s Gather Podcast. I’m your host Zeke. In this episode, my friend Alex will speak about protesting and currency of America. You can listen to this podcast on all major platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, by clicking the link in description below or going to https://allmylinks.com/letsgatherpod. I like to give a content warning for any strong language used in this episode. I hope you have a nice day and enjoy the show. Alright, so I’ll like to thank you for joining the podcast.
Alex: Man appreciate appreciate you having me on there.
Zeke: So first question. First question I always like to ask is what would your origin story be and what kind of medium would you use to express it?
Alex: Excuse me?
Zeke: What would your origin story be?
Alex: My what?
Zeke: Origin story.
Alex: Origin story. Oh, man, that’s it. I like that question. To me, so I’m just talking to somebody about good questions and you just give me Alright, so I will say I started off by my origins definitely come from like Brooklyn. I started and I was born in Brooklyn, when it Kings County Hospital over here in East Flatbush. Um, and I was born like a wild kid. I had like my personal muscle everyone else’s dog and I was like, doctors and shit I would fight the doctors like I like 24 hours old like like niggas can now rent let me just cannot handle me bro. Like I came out the womb just started so that should tell you the type person I am a long way. I’m grew up above my parents, my mom and my dad with me which is fortunate for me to grew up going to school in Brooklyn and as a young kid, you know, wildly reckless, I was a smart kid but I still was kind of an asshole so I used to get a lot of trouble I still I still I still get into trouble to this day but I get the job to this day but I haven’t get ISIS again like trouble with teachers story like because just I was just a worthless kid and I was wild and like I knew better so like that’s what made me different like I knew what to do I just decided not to do that shit so that’s what history teaches authorship but know that older no I mean, I I got into high school went through a wild reckless phase sort of and then I 17 out of I should have started going to bu college at 17 it’s pretty good it’s pretty early for most kids but you know it is what it is. I am what I am and I met Zeke at Baruch. That’s what I meant Zeke oh no important part of me I’m Haitian so that’s why I’m Caribbean sound Haitian on Paris where I was born here is a big difference to these niggas like you got to be very specific like what kind of Haitian woman but by the clearly the last speaker Do you feel me understand Creole so I’m better than the other other babies like I speak actual prayer. So that makes me better than the fucking ones that don’t know what the Haitian Creole is on. Then I met Zeke at Baruch and yo he’s coolest dude I ever met him bro. I don’t know what is cool vibes always has some fire sneakers on. Like almost always is like the most fire Patrick Ewing’s I’ve ever seen in my life. You just saw you do this. You do this just for niggas like me to be happy. This is why you do this because I see it. I’m like, this is fine. This is fine. Only you can rock this though. I can’t rock that. So how you been bro?
Zeke: I’ve been good. Is this working, podcasting.
Alex: Yeah you was talking about earlier. He’s still he’s still working. See? Yeah, yeah. So and SEEK Office. We’re gonna I’m gonna miss that. But that’s not gonna be a thing over it. Like, the way the SEEK Office was set up is Not gonna be like getting away now post Corona I don’t know what’s gonna happen so they sent this message yesterday saying that they’re going to just have schools just be pretty much mostly online yeah or hybrid classes and like they’re going to try to make the hybrid classes only accommodate like classes and they need you to be there like labs and like um like theater like things we have to actually be there and do things or things with like actual equipment so like are we gonna have to have those because that’s a class like we can’t just not have that.
Zeke: Yeah I don’t have beakers and stuff in my house.
Alex: Right yeah. How I’m a learn this experiment I’m not in the fucking class to do the shit about it I’m gonna see watch on zoom I can’t see shit his cameras trash like he’s gonna have come on. But yeah, they’re gonna have that but my thing is is school going to be poppin though. Like is niggas going to go to school just because like, right.
Zeke: Oh, no, like I I said miss school I don’t miss school I miss my friends.
Alex: Oh, yeah, that’s what it is. 100% Yeah, I missed. I missed the friends. Like I missed that. But yeah, sort of to a certain degree we get tired of them but I haven’t talked to them a while so it’s like damn. I missed being able to talk to yall.
Zeke: Like when the meme came out with it was like If I knew it be the last time I would have hugged my homies a little tighter.
Alex: Bro. Bro that’s fact bro the last day before like once quarantine hit like full swing, bro. I’m like, bro, we got to hang out. Bro we got to hang out. Brah, I knows going hit is going to be this quarantine shit. I got to hang out with you today. One last time, bro. He was like dope, though, bro. I want to move a lot of people. I can’t imagine having a girl during the shit. Have you seen like this articles, bro? Like, people getting divorces and shit.
Zeke: Like sometimes, people aren’t friends beforehand.
Alex: Exactly. They like they, they dislike each other a lot. Like they just like each other when they’re at their best all the time when they’re in front of you. But when you’re at home with them all the time. You know what happens when you’re with someone for a long time? Zeke?
Zeke: Cabin fever,
Alex: You start finding shit you don’t like about them. That’s what happened. You start being like, I don’t like this about you. And then I’d be like, nigga, that’s who I am. And then you’d be like, what? I don’t like that. And now you’re beefing now y’all divorce. I can’t. It’s hard. It’s hard to deal with that shit.
Zeke: I mean, you can’t go anywhere because most things are close. So they,
Alex: Can’t go out with your friends and just cool off. There’s no bar to just go drink some low hanging out with the boys. If you’re a girl, there’s no going out your girlfriends to the club. It’s no girls trip. There’s no fucking sleep over. Like, there’s none of that shit. It’s just you and whoever you were at the crib. And then if that nigga piss you of it’s just you and that pissed off nigga like you and you pissed off at him. And he pissed off at you or like, whatever if you’re like, you know, all this other kind of relationships, like your significant others mad at you and your mad at them. And then you’re just like, so I got to see you mad every day. Now you’d be mad. And I like that. Now yall beef, it’s a tragedy what Corona is doing to these relationships? But the strong ones will prevail. You feel me? Oh, yeah, this guy might get to know people first. And definitely live with versus even can because sometimes you could be attracted people. And that’s not like a relationship. Right? Like, I mean, who you are, like, two people in front of them is not who you are, when you’re by yourself. Like it’s true. who you really are is who you are by yourself. Even me, I’m talking to this camera in this video. Like, I’m trying not to be the absolute version of myself to 100% because I don’t know what that would sound like to you guys. So it’s like when you’re like attracted to somebody you’re attracted to who they are when they’re in front of you. But when you work with them, you know they’re going to be times you’re going to see things that they do when you’re not around or when they don’t mind you being around or like when you don’t expect because you get used to somebody they comment stopped existing sort of because it’s just like you’re always there. Therefore, like, I don’t have to worry about your presence. So I was like, you start seeing that. How that is he like I don’t like that and it’s like, bro before I before he was with me, I was doing this now you hear you want me to change it that’s that’s always beef. Yeah, like wishes which is well, I heard like this is about self change more like the other person changing. And that’s kind of hard because it’s like who was like your identity or point, right is Buddhism. That’s what a relationship is supposed to be, though. Like, it’s you and that person saying, like, I’m accommodating for you, right? Because if y’all both do it, she just taking care of you and you just taking care of her. So it’s like, y’all don’t have to worry about yourselves. If it’s, if it’s proper, like, if the mindsets are proper, like, Alright, I want you, right. So I’m aware to make sure you a better person, and you got to listen to me. But you got to work and make sure I’m a better person type shit. So I was like, you know, like, and also take care of you. So I was like, you know, this is some shot, I can’t do you good at that. Like, you do that for me. And I’m gonna make sure that you can’t do I’m gonna do for you. And it’s like, it’s just constant given. And then you’re both given, you’re both receiving and that’s how it works out. But it’s like, it’s hard to do that because people are selfish, like, I’m selfish. So like, you do some shifting yourself, and I’m like, I feel slighted. And I’m like, Damn, like, you could mess with me. But then I’m not gonna I’m not gonna express that because I’m hurt your feelings. And then I urge you fellows, you get tight. You get mad at me because I hurt your feelings. I get tired you because you told me I could tell you so. And then I’m designing I Abort mission. It’s just that shit. But, I mean, that’s not me. But I’m saying like, that’s what would happen. Like, if you’d like, if you follow that like that, that that like mode of thinking?
Zeke: Yeah.
Alex: It sucks. People have people could be better though. It’s okay. They going to figure it out.
Zeke: And then people still lying about themselves line by each other. And this depends on what you want. You can work through what you want to work through, and is it even worth it?
Alex: That’s our question though. It’s hard. Hard to ask people, bro.
Zeke: Yeah, like, every situation is gonna be different.
Alex: Yeah. And that’s, that’s what makes it so weird. It’s like, everyone’s situation is different. Like everyone, like, no matter who you are, like, what goes on with you is never gonna be the same of what goes on with the next man. So, I think I was writing about this, because I was like, really, I was really thinking about this shit. Like, the idea that like, why why do you? Why does Why does someone called perspective like subjective? Like, you know, instead like thats yours. Yes. Your subjective, I guess your subjective perspective, right? Because it’s like, your reality is subjective only to you. Like, only you understand what what goes on around. You can, like, only you understand what you experience like, me, can’t I no matter how good I try, I’ll never be able to do that. Like, understand your experience completely. Because not going. Because this is shit that just fundamentally different about me, you? Yeah, like, you know, like, all like, our heights are different. Like, our backgrounds are different. Like, like, yeah, we black, but like, you know, like, you know, we might be black and we both like wear glasses. Well, it’s like, you know, our hairstyles are different, or like, our family dynamics are different. So say,
Zeke: That you had a dad.
Alex: But right. Niggas do that. I hate when niggas do that. Oh, my God. Fine will power through that.
Zeke: But it’s jokes.
Alex: Your God no, I knows jokes, but it’s just things. Like you, right? But damn I don’t want to say that. But as I say, is a privilege but you know, I’m saying like, you like our space is different. So it’s like, only thing that me you can agree on is probably oh discuss really, in terms of experience is like what we are as blackie, like, that’s what me you can talk about? Because it’s like, we both know, we experienced that. I mean, obviously, you know that we’ve had a black experience because we black like it’s just that I mean, that’s our skin color, you know, because of how the world is set up. This shit matters. So, like, we can talk about that. But that don’t mean me You are the same.
Zeke: Yeah,
Alex: We’re similar a little like, we’re similar. Like, not same though. So like, when you try to explain that to people, because everyone feels like they’re different. And then and then but it’s weird because even though everyone is different, everyone is also similar. You know, like, It’s weird. It’s a weird balance because you can’t treat everyone exactly the same. But like, there’s certain things that you certain ways you treat people based on like, you know, like things you understand about them like, yeah, like, like, okay, bro, like, because of society. Like, let’s use this example. This is gonna be spicy, but I gotta have a walk on this line cuz I’m a fucking Daredevil right? You’re a white person, right? And you understand, like, the societal kind of connotation of like, the saying the N word, right? And it’s like, I understand that we understand that black people are the same as white people, right? But it’s like the problem with using the N word as white person. It’s kind of like, you don’t share that experience. So I was like, yeah, cuz honestly, it’s bad to say the word period. That’s just, I made that clear, saying that words back. I don’t think it’s fair to like, I don’t think anyone would say that saying that. It is a good thing. Like, even as black people, we know, that’s not good. But it’s like, we share that experience. So when we say to each other is not that bad. It doesn’t feel that bad. But it’s like knowing understanding the racial dynamics of the world based on past actions. And you know, that trauma is still there, obviously, like, like, come on, I think about it. Like, we still remember that like, fucking, like, Jews were persecuted by Egypt, or like, like, we know that.
Zeke: Yeah.
Alex: But like, it’s just like, what it is what it is, like, Can we hold that? Can? Could they just hold that grudge forever? I mean, they kind of do. What they’re they kind of do, though. But yeah. But you know, like your wife is you understand, like, the racial dynamics of the situation, right? It’s not a matter of like, oh, we’re the same, I should be able to say, it’s like, bro, like, because of the way the world functions currently, based on the actions of people of the past, which may or may have not been your ancestors, but they definitely look like your ancestors. Like that word comes from, from a very weird place when it’s coming from a person who doesn’t understand the experience, at sight. And that’s what we’re trying to portray. It’s like, it’s not the fact that we’re black. And that it’s the skin color that makes us particularly able to use it is that because of the skin color that was arbitrarily put on us, we have a specific experience. And that is what allows us to kind of say to each other in a sort of playful way, but it’s still not good. Like, it’s still not, it’s not proper, if anything, we should all stop saying it. If it really hurts us that bad. Like, we should just all stop saying that we don’t feel bad about not saying you know, what, you know, but it’s like, oh, like the contrary and be like, oh, but like, we’re taking the power back from that word. It’s like, No, you’re not. You’re not doing it’s still going to mean what it meant. When it was being used terribly. Actually, what about that question? your paper about that? Yeah, but like, also words. And my stance was that since like, close, like I see, like history, like, actually, people likely to not say that word. Doesn’t really haven’t really done anything. Right Way, although there is that sense, people are using it to like hurt you. If you still have a way to make it like to lay people away or to make sure to like, show that doesn’t have that much value, as like a hurtful word.
Zeke: I’ve been seeing make a die down because because I, when I like for me, I’m not always going to like if somebody says the N word I’m not always going to check somebody on that because that’s a lot of time a lot of work. And I am lazier than woke. Just being honest.
Alex: But you know yourself though, that’s woke though, knowing yourself as being woke.
Zeke: And, like, then it’s also like if somebody they also I’m always a big person of context. Because you can take any word and use as offensive if you can provide context.
Alex: Right? Exactly. It’s not like not about it’s not just about what you said, it’s how you said it. Yeah, what was going on when you said it?
Zeke: And then if we react at times, I said the N word in a negative way. That showing a weakness like not saying than saying like, I’m a weak person, but it’s,
Alex: A vulnerability. Like you don’t like this is something that moves you.
Zeke: Yeah.
Alex: Yeah. That’s and that’s like, that’s, that’s exactly like, the way I feel about I’m like, it’s like, yeah, it’s it’s weird, because it’s like, I was watching episode one piece, right. And like, you remember Fisher Tiger.
Zeke: I am familiar with One Piece.
Alex: Okay. Okay, good. All right. This is the official tiger. He’s like a fisherman, right? And the fisherman would like oppress people in the show at one piece is very progressive. By the way, one piece is a good show. Yeah, I think these press couple people that hold the Fishman but they’re technically superior, physically stronger, and like, they’re actually very smart. They’re pretty much humans, but they’re just fishermen, right? But it’s like Yo, this dude was trying to fight for equality for like, fish man and like humans, but like, even though he was fighting for it, when it came down to it, the trauma of it all still hurt him and he didn’t want to get a blood transfusion from like a human, because he was like, fuck y’all niggas. And it’s like, he was like, Bro, I feel so a shame, but it’s true. Like, I just can’t get over this shit. So it’s like, that’s what I’m like watching that shit. I’m like, that’s what black people are feeling like, it’s like, no matter how good like, no matter how good of a person I try to be when a white person says the N word. I’m like, oh, what the fuck. But like, in my head. I know, like, technically speaking and I shouldn’t be saying it either. So like, if I’m going to say he should not be saying I’m going to say he should be able to say it’s like that trauma of like, what it means and how it was used on people just biting you like, like, but no, like, this is how what it used for by these people. And if you let them be, so that’s what it is. It’s like that, that it’s true. No matter what you do when you hurt somebody like they were they hold on to it. Like, yes, some people are better at handling the pain and others obviously. But if you shatter glass, like you put it back together, it’s never the same. Same shit. Like it can be back put back together as strong as you fucking can. But like that glass is not the same. And it’s like you’ve changed it. So now you have to accommodate for that to a certain degree. until we’ve either kind of put it behind us fully or there’s no but there’s no retribution for that shit, bro.
Zeke: Because,
Alex: No retribution for like how they would actually because,
Zeke: It’s just going to be a mark on history. And you just see this a week. Unfortunately, when the way time works, you have to move forward. You have to move forward. Just that’s how time works. By Yeah, you kind of got to remember it like it’s like, forgive but not forget.
Alex: Right Never forget. Yeah, like 911 never forget, like you just got something that you don’t have to remember. Because it’s like, that shouldn’t happen.
Zeke: Yeah, don’t let it happen again,
Alex: Don’t let it happen again. Like, and that’s pretty much what I like, for example, like, look at Germany, right? We would say Germany definitely is not the fucking same as they were when you were fucking killing all of the Jews, right? But nonetheless, we will never forget that they fucking did that shit. Like, we will never forget that a group of people fully came together and decided to exterminate a group of people. Like, we’ll never forget that shit. Like, that is a mark on history like, and it’s shameful because it’s like, you know, being a German you have to remember that your people did this shit. But it’s like, bro, it’s it is what it is though. Like, humanity is like the history of humanity bro. is nothing good, bro. It’s all bad shit. Yeah. And the point of it all is that that batch is behind us. And we’ve been it like a lot of people benefit offer it. It sounds like vast amounts of debt. The World War Two was so much it was I think you’d be like, have you ever been World War Two? I was like my shit when I was in high school. I was like causing trouble yet. I had a fucking fascination with World War Two. So I’m away I was a weird kid. But dude, like penicillin like the world wars bought us penicillin. Right? antibiotics World War Two brought us like commercial planes cuz that shit. They figured out planes because of world war two like the world war one and World War Two. Like they figured out planes you feel me? Yeah, not about nuclear energy. So that’s, that’s a sustainable source of energy that we got from that shit. We got Albert Einstein and his theory of relativity, because if he had never had to run away from the Nazis, he would have never came to America. If you never came to America, we would have none of this shit we have now. So it’s like, a lot of good shit came out of it. You know, in hindsight, it’s a part of it’s a part of human nature, but like you learn from the fuck ups. And like a lot of nasty sciences was bought on to like the malkos you would have never been able to go to space without these fucking German scientists that we stole from the Nazis.
Zeke: So this like,
Alex: I think it’s right.
Zeke: The way I see like I say life is balanced. I’m not saying right. But,
Alex: It’s not bad. All the bad.
Zeke: Is this balance, like, whatever, whatever you land on. I don’t I’m sorry.
Alex: Right? You gotta you just gotta. You gotta, you gotta you just gotta push them to action. Like things work out the way that they are.
Zeke: The essence or the power to fix that?
Alex: Yeah, I can’t fix everything. Like I wish I went to a protest. The other day, I don’t know if you saw like my post. I went to a protest like, because I never was a protest guy. I can never like go under protest. And I went I went because after like the George Ford situation, I was like, dude, like, I was really angry. But I was like, dude, like the problem that I’m feeling with Write this with this George Floyd situation that is like Yo, how could this negative feel so comfortable? Like like you can’t even say the bullshit about it was fear noble like that bullshit like that, that we knew that excuse is bullshit, but like that just proved it like that was like oh you’re definitely not scared of us bro because you definitely were just on this thing’s neck just now. So that’s cap you know we knew that was cat but now it’s like confirmed cap you’re definitely were scared of us. So this man is on his management for eight minutes and 42 seconds I’m like shit like I see cop roll by my phone like this nigga could that actually be on Monday? And that’s what it is it’s like it’s not that all cops are bad is that I don’t know which ones are good or bad. I don’t know which ones are good and bad. That’s the problem. Because it’s it just seems like all your mo focus is wallet and nany I’m gonna focus want to everybody out. No, I’m saying as like, none of you guys want to hear each other out. So it’s like, Alright, let me use an example that I use for myself because it helps me helps me understand the police situation because police policing gangs are the same shit like the really the same shit. Please, like I’ve thought about gangs and I thought about police cuz I’m like, I’m from the slavery so I looked at the police and look at the gangs and they got the same shit. It’s just the gangs are sanctioned by the government. And then the police are sanctioned by the government that’s the only difference between gangs and police. And it’s like the gang that the police is honest is you know, has roots in the KKK. But you know, you know the stars share shit. But sleeve the slaver save catcher. So it’s like you know, that’s the gangs that’s a shit I say set right? So it was like but they set it up in a way that like you know, obviously black people in it now but it’s still kind of racist because it just comes from those groups like no matter what you do, but the idea the premise of police is good they will they will they try to make us believe it’s good like you know, they’re trying to protect and serve and help us all and all that shit. Obviously not doing a great job at it. That’s the problem. Promise is that the police like the idea of police aren’t as bad it’s like the fucking police are the problem but they’re not doing a good job at upholding that shit. But Them Niggas on the same shit like the awesome game shit like do not snitch on each other. We did I say shit about each other. Whatever we do, whatever happened we don’t say shit. Like, you know, whatever happened is whatever happened that should happen. We’re not snitch I but all of us are gonna look back fuck it because it is what it is you do the fun we got to do fuck I make up these negative feelings about football. So it’s like oh shit. I understand the police cuz I know niggas in the hood just like that. Like even if the man doesn’t wash it, they cannot do shit like niggas like said niggas by to get killed because you know that the wrong the wrong you know like his fucking boys like blood or some shit like I’m blood and my boy blood but my boy blood he’ll wild one right? So it’s like he ended up doing some stupid shit I tried to stop him I can’t stop him because if I stopped them then it’s like it’s me against him like so it’s like all my semi like folding on the set. I gotta be back my man no matter what I do. So it’s like I he do some stupid shit he get killed he kills somebody. And it’s like I can’t say shit about that because that’s my set that’s my gang like that’s even though he’s a fucking idiot. I can’t say shit. Because if he if I say shit about him we all are acids in trouble because I’m there I’m implicit I’m complicit because I was there before me. You know he gets to the jail I want to say that nigga the Joker that’s my homie he got kids and shit. Like he got he got a life and shit like I can’t send him my homie to jail just off off of the strength that he did some fucked up. So it’s like oh, so y’all the same is just how on different sides thats it it’s just the gangs is the criminals and the police is the government but you’re the same shit gotta do the same shit. How you the same weapons the same tactics fear violence. Y’all do illegal shit y’all go fuck on nobody say about that shit. Even if it’s right or wrong right got the same shit is good cops is bad cops. Right is good gang members and is bad but gang members. The problem is with the gang members is you don’t know the difference. That’s the same show the police like you don’t know the difference. Why am I comfortable around gang members but because I know the difference around these things. So I know like all these slides he’s his real gangsters. These niggas is not to be fucked with because they might do like this niggas just loud cuz he t by talking shit. So I’m not gonna take him seriously. Or like, Oh, he’s he’s wild. He pulled his gun out because he on some stupid shit. I’m gonna just stay away from that negative. There’s no way to do that is I know that because I’ve been I’ve been wrong gang members, but I don’t know how to do that for the police. I don’t know how to do cops. Oh. Sounds like I see the police. I get fucking nervous. I’m fucking nervous because you know, my nigga I just seen a nigga just get his fucking neck snapped off step like he don’t like I just seen this nigga with a needle his neck. You know, I just seen a nigga get shot because he had a BB gun before me actually maybe get shot with his hands on the wheel because he was he was fidgeting too much after he got actually Got his goddamn wallet. I see nashit on the fucking news. I’m like, oh shit these niggas this woman these fucking cops is bugging. And it’s like that nigga pull up on me I’m fidgeting I’m scared. He see me fidgeting scared he has some I got some shit in the car, because I’m fidgeting and scared not knowing that I just seen a whole bunch of niggas just get shot by you, Nick is I’m just watching the show all day. And you think I’m suspicious? Because I’m fidgeting. Naw son. Some cops understand that shit and try to calm you down. I’ve had good cops do shit like that. And I’ve had cops that are just like, Yo, man, like, I understand, but I don’t even let you know that that’s why I’ve got one that’s from cops real shit. I’ve gotten stopped to some shit and then even like, I’m giving this warning. But it’s just I don’t know who’s who. Like, I don’t know who’s who. In addition to that protest, right? So mad about all that. That whole thing I’m mad about because I’m like, bro like that. Let that go to the protest and I’m like looking at these fucking protesters. And bro, niggas is antagonizing the police. Like I’m not gonna hold you if you tend to eat bro Yeah, as your question Zeke you tend to be bros you interrogate them and not any other men’s bro. Before me the only thing that’s keeping these niggas from fucking clawing at your neck right now so fat that you got this blicky at your side all these motherfuckers that they have you if you Put your gun down you not sure if these motherfuckers is gonna stay rational because it’s just like you know these motherfuckers don’t stares at you think is calling you pigs. They just call you all type of shit. niggas is saying I don’t like his eyes the way his eyes look. I like him and you ain’t do nothing wrong you just scared because a fucking massive 500 niggas is mad at you for some shit you need to do I’m clutching my fucking gun because that’s what’s keeping your fingers awake. Is this Blinky on my side? So I’m looking at this cop right I’m in front of the crowd I’m gonna cop at the scene is icy afraid this is what this this this this girl will be she’s screaming a shed these niggas is screaming I’m looking at him quiet I’m like Yo bro look at his eyes I’m just like oh this nigga is not angry at this nigga is afraid because he might get fucked up in my accidentally have to do some shit that he may not want to do. Because some other niggas did some dumb shit. And some other nigga was actually racist. I gotta keep my gun to my side for my protection. Because I don’t know what these niggas is gonna do. And I’m like, bro No, I know niggas in the hood feel the same exact way. But it’s just the odds is different. Like it’s the other side of the ticket. So make yo Yeah, very same. Because Yo, like the police shot us at the good right? We know that the Bloods and the crypts wasn’t started on some batshit with some good shit they wanted to do they want to help the fucking community. Oh, it was a fucking community based health group. Crips and Bloods.
Zeke: The sons of the Panthers.
Alex: Yeah, bro up exactly. We the Crips and the Bloods are the offset of the goddamn Black Panthers, it was some good shit just got fucked up along the way because that’s what happens when niggas is a nation with people and they should not make as black people by let me be much more like specific human humans when they say when you ask some good shit it’s in the fucking oh so we do it’s like it’s in our nature but we flesh it out but it’s like you know we also can make you better that’s another thing we could do we blessed to have both sides of that shit we can fix it up terribly bro like come on. You can see an issue but like you said bro, we can take the worst shit going on and make some good shots there we will take the worst look at Black people that’s what we did bro you took the worst of humanity and like you just fucking prospered flourished. Be grateful well we have done a great job of doing a great fucking job yeah, that you did a great fucking job and nobody thought shit about we oppressed like we do a great fucking job for whatever the fuck is going on? Doing a great fucking job. We could do better if we just stopped giving a fuck about these things. Look at what look at the sauce. We got the desert. Hopefully got B but I understand that. I understand both sides like that being at that protest. I said oh shit, so is hatred on both sides too because I hate Because of this, you may hate me because I’m sure,
Zeke: A lot of times opposites are really similar.
Alex: Yeah.
Zeke: Like love and hate are very similar emotions.
Alex: Oh, I think they’re the same thing.
Zeke: Yeah, there’s like,
Alex: They’re just obsession. It’s just, it’s just how you display your obsession.
Zeke: Yeah.
Alex: But but love is like obsession in positive light. It’s like I love you. You’re like the greatest thing ever. I’m obsessed with you because your greatest thing ever. Hate is I I hate you and I don’t like you. For what you are. I’m obsessed with not liking you. That’s what hate is. I am obsessed with not liking you. And love is just I’m obsessed with liking so it’s like, both ways the same shit obsession. Yeah, yes, that’s what are you there? Right? What the best black people why? Because it’s like we want we want to be cool with them. But we don’t know. But they they’re not playing fair. We’re mad at them because they’re not playing fair. But they’re not. People don’t play fair game is a human thing. But we don’t play fair with each other.
Zeke: Remember, watching the video and a guy was talking to another guy. He was like, why is it bad that you like? People like he wants people to be like, American assimilates like the European style thinking like way of life. And in the guy on the panel he was like, that’s not a good thing that tied America together like other countries that have like religion, or like a shirt actually tie churches together. America very very fractured.
Alex: Yeah. Because we’re a group of people from everywhere. Yeah, that’s like America shit is like we are from nowhere because we are from everywhere.
Zeke: And here the people,
Alex: Look at New York man. Like what what culture is New York. You got mosques, you got synagogue and Gods we have cathedrals. We have fuckin skyscrapers and we have temples we have like everything on the fucking sun here because we we have everyone from the fuck from under the sun here that you can fry things just even the way we eat bro. like New York is a fucking the most diverse eaters in the world. Some of us wrote because this is like we literally can eat anything from anywhere right here. Like, just walk through my head. Like, that’s a fun shit to do. Like everyone walk through my hand like as like a whole thing. Like, just walk through my head. You gonna see fucking 15 different cultures naked. I just walked through the bitch like no trains, like walk around. And like make a trickle of shit. Like you’re gonna find it. Go to Chinatown. And then it’s like, you’re in Italian. In here, you’re here and you’re here and it’s like you go to Brooklyn. It’s like a whole nother fucking CEO like different shit going on over there. And you go to Queens as a whole the whole system shit in the Bronx. The Bronx. But when the Bronx you know, they got their whole ship stand on we Jackson, but we kind of don’t we got him in the textbooks. But we don’t Jackson in real life. But that’s Staten Island. I guess whatever is on there. We got all that shit. But it’s like Europeans is like the the shit is that the European like, the from this culture of like Christianity, and Romans. And like, the Greeks, like batshit is cemented. They’re like, yeah, that’s this that they have stay unified by some shit that’s beyond what American unified like they’ve unified. Europeans unified on some time, shit. We’ve known each other as countries forever. Because that’s all we had with each other. But it’s like America is like, ah, yo, everyone from everywhere. Wherever you from pull up. We’re gonna do some cool shit together. But it’s like what are we we the group of niggas that’s from everywhere, so we’re not from nowhere. Like our group is it from anywhere our people are from different places, but our bloopers from nowhere we just made America just you know, the founding fathers decided we just don’t do this shit. They have the old father ship. He needs a second I think a fucking charge nuts like that all the way. thing that is good. Sorry about that. I thought I plugged that in properly, but the computer was like, getting ready to die. The world is a weird place man.
Zeke: So like the world moves in a circular like things repeat yourself a lot. Like they say history repeats itself.
Alex: Mm hmm.
Zeke: Sounds like,
Alex: My uncle give me a fire as quote want to hear it? he got it from his professor who got he my uncle got this from his professor and his professor got from somebody else. But he said history doesn’t repeat itself history rhymes.
Zeke: Makes sense.
Alex: Yeah, like that was like, That’s hard. Because, like, it’s not that it’s the same. It’s a similar,
Zeke: Like from 100 years from what you call it. Every 100 years, we’re all like a pandemic. And we didn’t learn anything. What did we learn something? Cuz I’m just like,
Alex: We really do get a pandemic every hundred years.
Zeke: Sounds like from eight from 1918 we should have learned something from then.
Alex: But so pandemics is a part of humanity but we’ve been fighting the fucking unknown forever.
Zeke: Yeah.
Alex: We just it’s just always some like that was the thing about the viruses are like it’s not that we not figuring it out. It’s just these niggas keep getting better.
Zeke: It’s like lifeform versus lifeform.
Alex: Right? Exactly. You know, they said like the actual the smartest like you said like, it’s like this out of the wild is the wild is causing the smartest animals the smartest animals in the world as not far as living creatures in the world and not human humans. It’s trees because trees live trees lives from which she’s been here way before people so like, and then their timeframe is like much longer so tree lives for a very long time. And like, it’s like okay, we’re going to we’re essentially going to war against the trees and the trees are like okay, since you guys want to kill us all we’re not going to do we can’t do the thing that keeps you guys attacked. We just keep you the fucking global temperatures intact. So like okay, fuck you guys. Are you gonna kill us all like you’re gonna kill us all and you’re all gonna fucking die so fuck you. That’s like whole Oh, shit. That’s cool. But it’s like, save the trees. Because they be they not. They gone win this we go they go die, but we don’t die. Kinda. Yeah, but yeah, like I think you’re I think you’re right about what you said about like, well just really close and circular motion like it’s like a cycle.
Zeke: Yeah,
Alex: It goes up and down
Zeke: I was watching Wisecrack and they was talking about um what you call it End Game and how like, Captain America is like his life was that he had to say the same as life can moving on.
Alex: Yeah,
Zeke: Ironman had to change adapt his self as things kept happening to him.
Alex: Right.
Zeke: Thor, he just kept going to the same circle. He was on top and everything was shut down by him and then hie had to build himself up again.
Alex: Yeah.
Zeke: Which is similar to how on Norse you like flip a rat in a walk how like that we the everything we do yourself. And then again the cycle. So you go like he goes every time. Yeah. I felt like the world is a mixture of all three.
Alex: Yeah, I think I think all of these religions and like all of these beliefs are just, like all our different interpretations of the same shit.
Zeke: Yeah, cuz in the Norse. I was surprised. I was watching the History channel. They had their own Adam and Eve. Yep. At the end of Ragnarok for everything.
Alex: Yeah. Like, every country has to be a first human. Like every culture has like a first humans story. For the most part, most of them, most of them that we know about to like, there’s some ones that don’t have like an Adam and Eve that we don’t really talk about most of the time, because they’re not like as like powerful. I think this one inspired like this is the Mesopotamian gods, they’re cool, but they’re like, it’s like, what you can learn from them is like, not as good as we can learn from like, paying attention to Norse mythology, or like Greek mythology like that, because they’re like a little bit more implicit. But because I had a class about this kind of shit, like on the side, but at the ethics and morals and ethics, ethics and logic of indigenous instruction like that, but it was a it was a it was a philosophy class about like the ethics of religion, like essentially, like, what is religion? What is actually religion supposed to do as like a fucking function of humanity. Like, it’s like, all of these things are the same thing. Like, they’re just trying, all these religions are essentially, people trying to get each other to understand a good way of living. Like, this way is better than otherwise. If you live this way, you’re not gonna be okay. You don’t live this way. Life is gonna be shit. Like, that’s what the ultimate vision thing is. And it’s like, okay, which religions are better? Mother fuckers win the religion is like we won because we’re better. We won because we said that we were better, had a better way of living. We fought about it. And our way of living obviously is better. You want like a word that are like thinking about think about this, like religiously speaking like, our way of living wasn’t better than yours, then y’all would have one. That’s like the whole religious argument. And it’s it’s logical. It’s fired. Oh, it’s fucked up. But it’s fire. Like it’s kind of true.
Zeke: Like, our, God said we can win,
Alex: Right? And we beat your ass so if y’all God loss, who got better? You feel me like if we fought our and we beat you out, we obviously better because our God made sure we want to be better. That’s all it is. And it’s like, that’s why they say history. The history is in the hands of the winners. That is like our gods said that we better we beat our negatives so we obviously better now. Yeah. And it’s like you can’t tell them this cap. It’s not they wanted. They won they better to you. They beat you. How ever they beat you. They beat you even if you’re a smaller country and shit. Like, think about it. Let me let me let me put it into perspective right people don’t like to Jewish people, right? Because Jewish evil in Hollywood Nah, shit, you know, they, they take over everything. But it’s like we hate on the Jews so much. But they keep saying that they are the chosen people. And no matter how much you try to get rid of these No matter how much humanity tries to get rid of these niggas these niggas always come back. They always come back. They always come back to section over any always you always get fucked up again. Always every time. They always come back. It’s like okay, we can say that they’re fucking like big Pitman’s hidden point of view is like they’re fucking vermin. Right. Like they infest the world and they infest the community. And they just they just take advantage of it. And then they succeed and now we have killed that’s Hitler. That was Hitler’s perspective right? Which is disgusting. This is fucking wrong. You know? What is another point of view like okay well the fuck are these niggas doing that always make sure the way these things always winning every country they go to the common a fucking direction. You’re gonna tell me do things direction no matter where they go? It was in some matches, you know, for this on it. Like, fucking why she will model is on it. Chinese usually will not focus on I mean to be on it, period. But that’s like double trouble, right? They’re at focus on it. You know, I’m saying like, what makes these people win? every fucking time. All right, this observe that and figure that out? Maybe we can figure out how we can make Arshad better, you know, instead of hating on them niggas for winning and shit. Like that’s how I like it. So that’s how I look at religion I’m like alright, bro like I could hate niggas from religion but it’s like I what is about a shit that they should bet because every religion got some shit that they bet in another religion for because they wouldn’t be here that’s another stereotype thing about no one believes in fucking Greek mythology no more I wasn’t religion, not mythology. Because that shouldn’t work as good as this she did we got off the ship we got not we’re better so we don’t worry about that shit. Alright 12 Gods I should go work with because too many guys to worry about. I just have one because it’s easier to talk to one than fucking 12 and then is like fucking Gods for all the different ship like is God asleep? Like there’s a God of fucking my dreams? Like what? nigga I gotta pray to all these niggas like nah I’m just praying one nugget that does all the ship that’s how like Christianity he’s got one thing that’s how Christianity Christianity I will say dude just don’t say the Judeo Christian God because the technically a Jewish God the Christian God is technically a Jewish God and an Islamic God is technically the Christian God that is technically the Jewish God so it’s all the same shit. You think somebody’s gonna say fucking god, that’s what you think is all here. It’s like seeing fucking naked, but it’s how they talk to that niggas all different but it’s like Alright, this is making one nigga All right. We think the way we talk to this nigga is better than the way y’all niggas talk to this naked. That’s what the Christian said to the jushi y’all niggas killed Jesus we thought Jesus was cool and all that he was the fucking Savior. y’all niggas killed him. Y’all obviously fucking following the wrong negative because the nigga we follow will never let some shit like this happen for no reason. They were trying to teach us something down motherfuckers is wrong. And then Jewish people was like fuck y’all niggas we know the folk we talking about. We’ve been doing this shit for thousands of years. y’all niggas gotta shut the fuck up right? So Christians are separated from doing Chico that are we gonna worship that Jesus name because Jesus is the Son of God and these niggas don’t see that shit cuz these niggas fucking blog fuck these niggas right and they comes like Mohammed shit Mohammed had his own shit about his and he knows about the Christian God He knows about the Judeo Christian guy he knows about that mega he like that make it seem pretty cool And then each other by himself and he’s like holy shit well this Nick was speaking to me and you know i don’t think his name is Jesus the Son of God because come on when they get you not that great it was I but you don’t feel me. I think this nigga talking to me like I think Jesus was just like me like we both was just prophets he might have thought he was the son of God but he really wasn’t there’s no son of God has nothing to do that. So, but you don’t respect him because he’s smart. He had a point. And then Mohammed was like, but I got my own sin. And we’re gonna have to say like I Oh, fuck this pork shit because I actually killing us right now. Every time I eat pork, you get worms. So then it got a benefit Katey Porter no more Gods indicate that she because every time we eat that shit, niggas die so God so don’t eat that shit. And now I don’t think is important. But now all these niggas leave in the same God but they all beef because it’s like the way I believe in my god the way I believe in God is different from how you believe in God because you swear to god that like this is the fucking Son of God. I’m not jacking that. Like you believe that this is this but I’m not jacking that like they all believe in the same God but they just different about the particularities I was like oh yeah, so again, oh yeah, Nick is the same. Yeah, just got different sides. Like yeah the same niggas like Jada same similar niggas I believe in the same God but y’all just be fun because of like little particular shit that was going on here. How about fuck all Hi, I believe about that little show that was happening here and is focused on the shakeout don’t all agree with like, the Muslim story is the same shit as the Christian story essentially, as a fucking Jewish one. There was Adam and Eve most focuses in the garden plugin, Eve ate the apple and then was kicked out and set into work starvation and slavery and fucking sin. Essentially, all them believe that it’s that you tell that shit so all these niggas they’d be like, yes, that happened. That’s how that’s just started. So what shall be fun about that is beef and about the Staffordshire I even beef about the before the full forshay was what matters before she was what matters I got all fall on that shit so like just say I mean Oh, we might not believe we thought about jack all this other shit but like, that’s just like get together. But like that’s what like the problem with like Palestine and like Israel shit. But like you talk to niggas who’s really Jewish. Something is like, bro, we don’t fuck with Israel. Because they like know it. They don’t they don’t fuck with Israel, bro. Like Jewish like some Jewish news on Fox. Because it’s like, yo, it says in our religion, you’re not supposed to have a holy land. We’re not supposed to have that. Like we’re not supposed to have a place for only Jewish people is not allowed. So these niggas is breaking the rules. Well, then the Jewish Nick is after you know, after the after Hitler. Snake and Hitler came through and this fucked up shit to the US. And the Jews are finally tired of that shit. She was like, yo, my nigga like every time you pull up on your neck and so we went in your niggas get mad that we went in. So fuck y’all. We want our own place where we can just win in peace. But I’m sure that whoever made the rule that Jewish people can have their own fucking holy land, was making sure that situations that we have right now wasn’t going to happen. Like Think about it. The fucking religion says no holy land. Why? Because it’s like, yo, we be winning. And niggas don’t like that. Because the best if we have a place for only ourselves, we’re gonna end up like these niggas always trying to fight all the negatives for the shit. Well, we can just win what we hear now look what happens to Israel is you got their own shit. Now they constantly be for other countries by Jewish neighbors is beautiful and Nick is awesome just being Jewish, but not as a whole country. So now Nick is gonna blame all Jewish niggas for his for Israel, even though most of these niggas are like that shit. So I was like, see? That’s what happened. You have a territory now niggas be all gang shit. All this shit as gang shit.
Zeke: Like history it’s the same difference.
Alex: Gang shit literally you can boil down history in a war it’s a gang shit my gang better than yoga. Fuck you’re gaining fuck yourself that’s all this shit is fuck yo said I said better than yourself. My fucking which I’m not fucking with giant niggas is running shit. We better than you. I bet you did we know better than you. I bet Let me pull up on you real quick fuck you up and then we take your shit and then you got to be our shit now because we conquered y’all so we better than you know we better than you because we conquered you is easy. But then when you understand that you’re just like oh, so all the shit happening right now is normal. Like all the disputes and anger and shit should normal. Supposed to be like that? Ain’t ever been no peace Niggas saying no justice no peace. I’m like bro is never gonna be peace. Or what’s gonna be some shit wrong? Yeah, I was I was thinking like, if everybody got what they wanted Just makes conflict Yes bro cuz what up what complicating things you want to know what to know when humans going bad together finally all together perfectly as a as a as an organized as a perfect as a perfect society when fucking aliens pull up because there’s no there’s no time for no distinctions now is us and them like okay you black but you human though don’t think is aliens like we together like yeah here we might not like y’all like this but we hate them more like we got to put all this bullshit aside to fight the aliens like that’s when we’re gonna be like done like yo forever.
Zeke: And then we got to find like another life form in the fourth dimension to.
Alex: Like come on.
Zeke: [inaudible]
Alex: We got to fight these niggas now fuck fighting each other right now we gotta fight these things they look you don’t know how you know that’s true look what happens when we have watched The Walking Dead yeah look what happened to Walking Dead bro what happened at the beginning of Walking Dead all these niggas fighting each other right? racism was pretty much like niggas that was racist die Why? Because being racist got you into some fucking trouble with the enemy because you want to be dumb shit, you want to be sexist? We can’t be sexist. Why? Because if you if you try to do some dumb shit because you’re being sexist, you’re gonna die and we cannot be fighting right now over some stupid arbitration we got these zombies to fight Why can we not fight over resources to too much? Why because if we start fighting over resources to things can kill us other groups or are the zombies which is the real enemy because we can always befriend these niggas. You can befriend other humans if they win it right? But these zombies is a friend. But as these niggas started getting acclimated to like zombie life and started figuring out how to have a civilization start again. niggas is electricity and he’s got a village because our walls they just figured that shit out because that’s what make us do we figure shit out god bless us as human beings we figured it out. That’s how we always win at the end of the day all matter what fucking nature does to us like fuck your knickers even when I mean them niggas started fighting each other as soon as they figured this shit out, and it wasn’t the zombies wasn’t a big enemy no more. There was like, like a fuck the zombies these niggas is a problem cuz y’all niggas is not operating correctly. Not issuing more. It’s like, state countries in war. Well fight each other. Yes. And then if there’s a war everybody to say, hey, let’s stop this away. Now. We also think about it when it was America’s race tensions at its lowest war war time when black people get the most shit war time becuase we don’t jave time for this rasism shit right now even in the fucking army them niggas trying to be racist, but they realize it wasn’t helping. Like the and that’s why like you know, like those people that go to the military they go to the military they’ll be treated a certain way by the military because the military are all the same. You’re all pieces of shit. So it’s like there’s no racism that is racism and military but it’s not as bad as like here like in the states they’ll come back to the United States and be like Yo, my nigga like if some racist shit happened to me I can go to my superior they can handle that shit because we don’t have competent racism shit right now but we back here you think is racist and no one sees things so now these things get tight and they start shooting at the police because the military niggas bro What do they train you in the military? If you want some shit you gotta fight for it so are they go to the fucking police the police don’t want to help if they go to the government the government don’t want to help but the races to it kind of go to the lawyers lawyers don’t want to help they can’t fight that should be racist to oh okay so I can’t fight no way no way to at all to stop this racism shift happening in the states like niggas is just dying on wants to get arrested All right. I was in the military if I want us to shout to fight for it. All right, you know, from the I know how to God, the only thing I know how to do right now is use this gun. Because that’s the shit that I was trained. So they pull up on the police and they start showing these niggas. And and I was I love black people’s components. It’s like Yo, you can read these niggas fuckin stories and omegas tried everything and they got damn power to not use fucking guns. So fix the shit that was going on. And to not use guns so it’s like, bro rights on like, matter what you do. We’re going to come into conflict. Like we had to make conflict. It is no fun. You have to. Ever heard of Frederick Frederick Nietzsche?
Zeke: Probably.
Alex: Like a philosopher and he I think it was here. I hope I’m not wrong. I’m wrong. I’m terrible philosophy minor. But he said, if humanity got everything they wanted, they got cakes. And they got to eat whatever they wanted and have whatever they wanted it all things worked out for them all the time. Some motherfucker would just start breaking shake, just for something interesting happen. Yeah, some nigga will just start going crazy dusty be like, Yo, this shit was boring my nigga, you gotta gotta shake this big joke. Somebody who’s gonna be the bad guy. Somebody is gonna be the bad guy just because.
Zeke: He’s like the person who brings a gun to the party.
Alex: Yo, exactly. That’s a fucking Perfect Point, bro. Is the nigga who brings a gun to the party. Why you need that?
Zeke: It’s a party. Neutral, neutral.
Alex: Bro. Okay, you bring your gun to the party? Why? You have to bust it out some nigga that wasn’t really bothering you. Like, he was talking a lot of shit. But like, yeah, you don’t need to pull out your gun on him. God damn. That’s exactly what that’s exactly what that is. But it’s the hood version of Frederick Nietzsche. Zeke that shows fire is the nigga is always in the goo brings the fucking gun to the party. Always. Back, you know, they said that shooter like they said like, no matter how good it is. It’s always something. It’s like. It’s a part of like psychology of humanity. Like, like, like, there’s always going to be criminals. Yeah, no matter how good you say it is always going to come. Like everything works out. There’s gonna be criminals. There’s always gonna be some nigga that doesn’t want to break the rules just because I get that because that’s how I was in high school. I was that kid like I wanted to. I wanted to subvert the rules just because I wanted to, like not that they were hard to follow or that there was just like, it’s much more fun to not follow. Because then it’s like, you know, like, I could do whatever I want. I fuck with these interesting hobbies, things. What they going to do? You going to call my mom, fuck these niggas. From all that shit. You have one thing? There’s always gonna be that like there’s always gonna be a kid this or every cause got a kid that don’t listen. For me, every class and some classes may be better than others, right? But every class got that one nigga that listened less than all the other kids. That nigga always ready for some static Yeah, that was me. Unfortunately, that was that was me in my class. But even among amongst the smart niggas I was the dickhead I was the one that was like fuck you. So it was like it is what it is bro. Like you’re gonna find that shit like this is always gonna be bad cops is always gonna be bad bad people. There’s gonna be bad people bro it’s a part of human nature like this initiative is like a second this is a if world is like a video game that’s like a program that’s an NPC like that’s gonna be there.
Zeke: We need processes to solve that’s the main problem.
Alex: We don’t have we need to make process exactly. Oh, we do have processes but they’re not good. They’re not efficient. We send niggas to jail it’s not efficient. Jail is not efficient. That’s the only problem of jail right we need to put these niggas somewhere but we didn’t jail doesn’t work. Does that mean Yeah, they we got to put them nigga somewhere like these niggas that’s just a wallet. We got to be able to identify them properly and just put them somewhere where they can do this shit that they do away from regular lives. But they don’t got to be in prison like that shit bad like the human still like as I saying like, Chris is just an incubator for con. Yo, I was on a really shit you know he was I don’t know what you really want to know how to really become a fucking real criminal. Once you go to jail though. That’s where a real that’s a real criminals are born because like my uncle like say you like a young young drug dealer. Right? You are good, man. You’re a good kid. You know, you got caught up with some stupid shit gets up. He gets into jail, right? But you’re a smart kid. Like you’re smart. You’re a smart kid. You just got caught up in some shit right? Now you’re in the system. So you could never ever ever get a real job ever again. Right? So you got one option right? You were smart kid you got one option. Either you suffer for the rest of your lifetime to impress the white man. Or you become the best goddamn drug dealer you can have become or to go to jail for murder, you know that you know you’re getting off early. Be the best activity that you could possibly be. So it’s like you go into hunting you go into a fucking room with a bunch of hood niggas. Like you know when they got us networking with professionals.
Zeke: Yeah,
Alex: That’s what jail is for niggas. Jail is a conference. It’s a conference when niggas like all the hundred niggas, all the best hooded niggas get sent to jail. So they go talk to other niggas in the hood like I said, No no no no young man you was doing the drug game all wrong here’s what you got to do is how you do it and you can make some more money nativism all this game is shit make them tough you know it’s not fucking working out shit they go into the hopper Baba goddamn Tom chamber Nagesh they come out they’re super thug and then now the undercurrent on the scene the on the fucking feeling fucking street even bigger even better within it was before they went and we want these Nuggets to stop doing what they do is like you said it negates the bootcamp to learn how to be better criminals, and you make us feel like shit because we become better criminals. And then not because ours now black people got the most criminals because we can get we could get sent to fucking criminal training camp every fucking time you decided that you keep doing bad shit. We will put you in a place where you could learn more batshit fun. society does like the fucking devotion like me to rehabilitate easy. That’s what they do here. Yeah, new prisons on us. They said to camp. You go to prison for two years. Get a therapist to talk about your problems. You figure out your life you get a skill, you get a craft. No, you get a fucking vocation. You don’t know how to fucking better yourself. You a better person be here. Oh, god, oh, come back here. Please. I don’t want to see you here again. Like that’s real. I don’t want to see as ever again. am I helping you so I’m gonna give you everything you need so that you never bring your house back here ever again. Think yourself because somebody does need that shit. Somebody does need some time to be away from niggas and figured it out. You know, I’m saying I knew he was doing badly because there was data understand themselves, but he was bored some shit and you need some time alone. He just supposed to be spend so time alone by yourself. Figure yourself out.
Zeke: In the States people have this like to think is a date to the states they treat life as black and white, which is very grey.
Alex: Because it’s grey. Obviously people good people do bad things and bad people bad people do good things. Right. And the way we the media and like the same purchase crime is that all crime is bad. And this side good and bad. Right? Like you’re a criminal. You’re automatically like evil.
Zeke: Yeah, but some people aren’t just evil.
Alex: Yeah. There’s good niggas bro. Like is good at there’s hood niggas that are like good people. Like, they’re good people, they sell drugs, if they sell the fucking cocaine, or they sell the fucking weed and they go back to work. And they go back to the kids. And they love they love the kids and they love the wife, the shit. But they just got to sell this work because they got into jail. That people know this the circumstances? Because a product could be good and bad. Like we had a good neighborhood. Like, if I say that somebody’s like, No, not like, I guess the positive The so called a positive example. Yeah. Like you could be a good drug dealer. But you could be evil drug dealer too. I think about it. If you’re a drug dealer, a good drug dealer, right? You give your part you give your product, you give your customer the best possible products. I mean, let’s hypothetically right. If you were going to buy drugs, you’d want to at least buy drugs from somebody who sells the actual drug that they perform, that they sell, and that they care about you enough to not lease your shit with something bad so you can die. And you can have a bad day. Or you can have a motherfucker that gives you PCP. Just just for the fun of it. Know what I’m saying. Yeah. And it’s police officers like that. You know, there’s good police officers that might get you out for the fucking warning because you did some stupid shit. No slap on the wrist. Right? I’ve had those. I’m sure everyone most of I’m sure a lot of people have had those. Probably not as much as why people probably do. But no, we probably all experienced at least one police encounter. Hopefully, maybe. I will hope to god that someone has at least had one good encounter with the police and can just be like, okay, they’re not all bad. Just the right ones. Obviously, a lot of them are bad, but you know, and then even with people, you know, like us, like you were saying importantly, it’s gonna be good people is gonna be bad. Going to be, Malcolm X. And Martin Luther King, and then there’s going to be Hitler and Stalin. Like it’s going to be these things. But what you do is going to be good in the bad. It is how we is how we move around. Yin and Yang symbol. Life is the Yin Yin Yang. That’s what life is. Good shit batches. Chaos order is up and down. Left and right like this. Shoot as different opposed to each other just to get the thing is like a lot of times we get caught up in a deficit and we ignore the similarities in a lot of people but the similarities but they’re not that different. Same everyone similar is the same.
Zeke: And I think World War 2 it was like the Germans. The French were fighting each other. I’m probably getting the country’s wrong and then you’re right you know, I’m talking about like those specific countries.
Alex: Yeah, Germany Germany fought with France yeah Yeah,
Zeke: I’m talking about for this example. Yeah, no, I know what you’re saying like in the example that Germany French are fighting. Yeah, but maybe,
Alex: They did fight they did. Yeah.
Zeke: I know. They fought once in a while for this example. It was Christmas and they started celebrating Christmas together all.
Alex: Right. Yeah, I remember that story. Yeah.
Zeke: And it is like but it was also outside forces of the countries like hey you guys that war fight and there was a time to everything is either hey, we got a shoot a seven o’clock in the morning we going to shoot up so if you guys lay down then yeah, no one gets hurt facts. And they did that but the general was like the conscious like hey, this is war fight. And niggas is like I’m on break. We just have a Christmas you guys are cool. We cool these guys are cool.
Alex: Yeah, we’re gonna kill each other later but like let us have this Christmas nigga. Shit That’s what I’m saying. Like at the end of it all these niggas know they know the difference like these niggas know that they’re not that different it is on the opposing sides like this worship is literally a battle of just opposing sides you don’t believe what I believe so I don’t fuck with you for like you you have some shit that I want and you won’t give it to me. So I’m going to take it from you that’s what was bros simple shit. But it’s part of life bro. Conflict is a part of life like conflict in general is just mitigating how as how far it escalates. Yeah well, I think that’s what guys are good at. Like guys know, like guys are good at doing that shit because guys know that we can fight. So like me talking. It’s like IBO. Like I want to fight this thing right now. No, I’m not gonna say that too long. Like, that’s what I think the guys talk it’s like we that we can that’s all we can like fuck around and like be assholes to each other. Because we know like, no matter how much of that I saw that I am to you. Or you are to me, like that don’t really hurt but getting punched in the face kind of hurt. So as long as we’re not doing that to each other all this shit playful. All this shit is talking shit is playful. Like it’s nothing. Because we could be fighting right now. That hurts. But it’s a conflict is a part of life. Like not gonna avoid that shit is gonna be conflict as long as shit is different. You know, I’m saying like, as long as there is different, there’s gonna be coffee. We should the same if everything is exactly the same. Nothing is going to have any kind of coffee with each other. But then nothing changes. things to say. Shit trash.
Zeke: Yeah. Yeah, it’s balances. This sucks. It’s hard. Balance sucks.
Alex: Balance Man sucks, but it’s good though. She needed needed. Because like how, like, for example, right? You know, she does bad, right? But like, how would you know? Shit was good. If you didn’t know what bad shit looked like.
Zeke: It was like there’s only light because of darkness.
Alex: Right? Only dark like darkness. Darkness is an absence of light. Right? Like, is it absence of darkness? But you need to have both to understand each other. Like, you can’t have bad without understanding. You can’t have good without understanding that but you’re not gonna understand what’s good if you don’t know what’s bad, because everything that’s not good. is probably bad. And everything that’s not bad. It’s probably good. There’s neutral but then that’s boring. Well that’s neutral, which is trash. You want good at least. But we have bad we at least know it is good. This is routers, remember that? And whenever the batch is going on, there’s something good going on here. I think everyone focus on that. Like I think like if when all this shit around you is going to shit. Whatever is going good focus on nashit sometimes, situations are hard, bro, it’s hard. But it’s always like think about it. If there wasn’t at least some shit going good for you. You wouldn’t be alive. I guess. Like if you like in the Jeffrey Epstein thing. Well, like the size everything. I think that’s the death of the Schumer example but like That’s hard. Like that’s one of the times like when something with that same is like, yes like if like if you’re being nitpicky like say your breathing is a good thing. But even then I think a lot of times torture is worse than death. Oh, yeah. No, but I’m saying if you’re living for no reason that sort of funding sucks. Like I that’s what sucks about being a slave, like a sex like being sex trafficked to it’s like, like, they’re prostitutes, right? But they have a choice, even though it’s like, whatever you can feel about prostitutes. I referred you wonderful about prostitutes. At least they’re making a choice, right?
Zeke: Sometimes.
Alex: But that’s what I’m saying like, that’s what makes us I’m separating it like there’s like girls that are being sex shopping. Like they just there’s like, big like these like these girls in Europe, they get like, drugged and like, they just put in perpetual high and they just raped while high and they can’t do nothing about it because there’s so fucked up all the time. That they literally cannot do anything. And this dude’s his fucking I’m like holy shit that’s disgusting. Like it’s a freedom issue to like it’s mostly the freedom is not it’s not like the rape is a freedom issue. Like all of that shit is a freedom issue is like, she should be able to have that fucking choice of whether she wants to sell her body or not, but you’re taking away her integrity and her her saw her sovereignty essentially, and taking advantage of her. That’s fucked up as evil shit man. It’s like that’s evil shit. But like what is good? Not that shit. Like whatever is whatever is wrong about that. Do the opposite that’s good. Like like you wouldn’t know how bad humanity would get without Hitler.
Zeke: Mostly people had to make sacrifices.
Alex: They made sacrifice and it’s like it is what it is because follow the sacrifice and make it seem like Hitler dying was not a bad was not a good thing. Right But it’s like like Hitler existing wasn’t a good thing. But we know now how bad chicken get because of how bad he was so it’s like that’s the good thing that we got from that like a fact Yeah, like nuclear warheads like this so bad thing that they’re here because they could just anything but they’re keeping those calm like yes, bro it’s a fight in bro. It’s like guys can talk all this shit. But we get a fist that’s when it gets rough like Russia can do all this shit China can say whatever fuck they want America say What a fuck we want like but we all know like don’t think that like you better than us and you’re gonna shoot us with the missiles and we not gonna bust back like okay you wanna you you you Everyone knows that if you antagonize each other too much the first nigga to shoot a missile is the wild one no matter how far we get yes I can jump on one is like this is a little boy has like a cat by here right in the front going here right and here is that like mutually assured destruction is up here like we don’t want to go there but we gonna die if he passes threshold Yeah, the whoever does it is your fault we all die you got to take the blame so one country is going to get angry enough that they willing to destroy the world because Kim Jong on the same is saying all this shit. He’s see just posturing because you don’t got that shit. You just toss it on the ship you gonna blow anybody out when we get the missiles? No you’re not no they not because you don’t die. Nigga Russia was talking all that shit Soviet Russia all that shit. And then they got the nuclear bomb and it was like yeah, bro. I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s worth it. Like like Russia was all gun ho about fucking America but a nuclear bomb I totally got one that was like oh I don’t know about that we go both die I fuck them but I want to die too like that’s the whole that’s the whole Cold War that’s all Cold War was fuck then but anybody to think on the trigger but everybody was like everyone that they think on the trigger by a by like a police trivia.
Zeke: That’s I think unfortunately we need army like I want peace. I think I think war is a which a poor man find a rich man’s battle.
Alex: Yeah, but it’s like, like you said we like we said earlier. Somebody is gonna make an army because nobody else has an army. Right? So take advantage right. So you Gotta have your shit together. And your army so that if they try to pull up You ready? This is always is always a nigga with a gun. This always a nigga with a gun at the party. Oh, that’s a fight Do you even know what you just gave me that? Like you just gave me that shit like I’m thankful that’s so fire.
Zeke: He was like he was like it’s like.
Alex: It’s perfect.
Zeke: I seen the meme was like something like Brooklyn parties like told a guy don’t bring a gun, he was like Why? And he was like what?
Alex: Not to bring the gun?
Zeke: Yeah.
Alex: Bro that’s so funny wow don’t bring the gun why, what you mean why? Bro because that as like what you mean why like.
Zeke: It is what would you name your origin story?
Alex: Oh man what would I name my origin story The Story of Xan bro,
Zeke: Nice.
Alex: The Book of Xan the story of Xan. And that’s all I can has all I’m Xan right now everything that I am and everything that I was is what makes them Xan so the origin history of Xan the origin of who I am is the story of Xan. So the story is and will be the name of my origin story.
Zeke: Nice, thanks for coming on the podcast.
Alex: Thanks for having me bro. We tried to do this for months.
Zeke: I have to do a lot of editing right now for this episode
Alex: It was fun though. I hope you enjoy what you’re watching.
Zeke: Yeah, it was cool.
Alex: We enjoy watching hop people like it to
Zeke: Have like trigger warning for certain situations.
Alex: I love everybody but I hate y’all. Love and hate the same shit its the same shit. Just obsessed with us. I love us all I like I like I like how good humans can be. And I really hate how bad we can be. But nonetheless I’m obsessed with us because I am us. And I love myself so I have to love you guys. Balance. Thanks again, bro.
Zeke: No problem.
Alex: Mom get down Talk to you later.
Zeke: Aight see ya. That brings another episode of pocket so close. Other thing our friend Alex will coming as a guest for next week. I’m gonna find one good way to speak about her just went to a COVID-19 pandemic as a college student. Hope you do nice day and hope to see you there.
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