In this episode Zeke caught up with his friend who goes by Water to discuss how early quarantine have treated them.
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Water: I read that is interesting that’s an interesting idea. A you I agree you don’t need a whole nine to five to finish your topics, because your task.
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Zeke: I like to welcome, everyone to another episode of the Let’s Gather Podcast. I’m your host Zeke. And this episode, I have my friend who goes by the name Water to talk about how he adjusted to the COVID-19 pandemic. I like to give a content warning for any strong language used in this episode. And I hope you have a nice day and enjoy the show.
Water: You know, they’re going to become depressed, they’re going to become crazy. They’re going to go outside and cause chaos.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: You know.
Zeke: The thing is, is also that the other ones they kind of got, they weren’t as easy transmitted as this one because this one is that the main part was the asytem ace asystematic people who maybe sick but they don’t know because they don’t have any symptoms.
Water: Right.
Zeke: That’s the main, that’s like the main difference because every other one was like, oh, you’re sick. You know that you’re sick and that’s easy to contain but with this one. Since anybody can be sick. Then like I you can’t it’s benefit for nobody to move. Until you figure out
Water: You know, they had Um, I think the first case that was documented was around like December. Yeah, I think in China or something.
Zeke: Yeah, I heard about it back then.
Water: Yeah, so then it’s spread, and most people brush it off. But now with this quarantine goes on. It’s another theory for train of thought. They want people at home unable to vote until no until until last November. And you know what happens in November.
Zeke: Election.
Water: Yeah. And that’s the presidential election. So for unable to vote for somebody like the voting even matters, we think is gonna happen.
Zeke: They had like a wartime president where you kind of just keep going on.
Water: They either they either hire Trump again and, you know how he’s running things, or they hire another puppet that either goes against what’s going on now or just continue. Yeah yeah
Zeke: This is a fun time.
Water: Fun?
Zeke: As well that fun more like it’s just interesting.
Water: Oh that’s definitely interesting you know in about 20 30 years when we talking about this to our kids
Zeke: Like back in my day
Water: We had an orangutan as a president
Zeke: The whole world stood still.
Water: Another thing I read well, was that like right now, I don’t know if you invest in stocks. Stocks are fucking they they’re going they’re rising like people are making money. Yeah. People who sell guns and ammunition are making money. They always make money but people who are selling go take those k 95 masks for fucking medical surgical masks that go for like 50 cents apiece. People are inflating the shirt out of it. Like what they did with insulin. They’re making money fucking who else is making money right now? I don’t know is crypto making money? I think cryptos cryptos on the rise to unbelievable. And like the large corporations they’re getting they’re getting multibillion dollar bailouts right now. And we’re waiting for 1200 dollar stimulus show. You get yours yet.
Zeke: My mom got it I file thought I was a dependent under her so my mom got it.
Water: Okay, so she got what like that 1900 17 or some shit?
Zeke: Something I don’t know.
Water: Yeah. Or
All: (inaudible)
Zeke: Go ahead go ahead. Now just say I started recording so once whenever we finish we can start the episode and then
Water: Yeah we mean like, like started with the episode so.
Zeke: Like just start the episode I just say stop recording when we first started but I started recording so
Water: When it’s all good, you wanna stop episode?
Zeke: Nah we can keep talking.
Water: You know how busy I am I got presidential meetings out here, you know, I got to go travel to the kitchen. You know, and then go take go take a dump eventually. No these are the different continents of my apartment.
Zeke: This sucks there’s people who lost their jobs and something to worry about.
Water: A lot of people lost their jobs or the fucking unemployment rate went up I think I don’t have an exact number but actually went up like a motherfucker like oh, these are new numbers do you still get you still get paid on the books for your you still get paid on the books for the tutoring right?
Zeke: Yeah, I’m a staff member for Baruch.
Water: Yeah, okay, so you can’t say yeah, so you can’t you can’t file an employment right now?
Zeke: Nope. Technically still working.
Water: So when you tutor you do the same thing like we’re doing now. Right?
Zeke: Yeah, through Zoom I send the Zoom invite. We do some questions do things then we done after a hour.
Water: So what made you get into public affairs because I fuck with public affairs and history heavy.
Zeke: That was because just because um my boss asked me what topics to choose. And then he said, let’s look at my transcript. He just assigned me to public affairs I was like, okay.
Water: I mean, there has to be a reason why I mean, if you’re going to tutor somebody, you got to be good at the subject.
Zeke: Oh, but when I took it, I took with and that was that was more of like, US history and like facts about the government. So I kind of had a basis of that already. So when I did it, I was like, this isn’t anything was new.
Water: Okay, so it was like, supplementing what you what you learned in high school?
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: But I had my public affairs professor was this old white dude, was like 5’11, 6 feet. He loved golf. But um, our exams bro, we had to memorize press one through 50 what political party they were in, would have to memorize terms and like events of history. was about a full two pages, like a one page back and forth of terms you had to memorize. per, per meter. Yeah, for per exam. That’s like 200 300 things you got to memorize per exam, bro.
Zeke: Yeah, mine wasn’t like that. It was
Water: It was like that?
Zeke: Nah it wasn’t it wasn’t.
Water: Okay.
Zeke: It was more
Water: Like, you know, I was one of my harder classes but I actually I genuinely enjoyed it. So it was it was it was aight
Zeke: History always been like my third favorite.
Water: So what are the two favorite?
Zeke: Math and science.
Water: Okay, okay. Um, I would say history. And then science. Math would be third. Yeah, I was decent at math. I wasn’t the best.
Zeke: (inaudible)
Water: B B+, like some shit.
Zeke: I never took math at Baruch.
Water: You never took math at Baruch?
Zeke: I had AP credit for high school.
Water: Oh shit okay. I took what did I take? thing I took calc and pre calc yeah.
Zeke: Yeah
Water: You probably high school then right huh? You took AP calc in high school then right?
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: Word word word. So yeah bro like yo, what’s today Sunday? Yeah, on Friday fucking Ramadan started you know out of nowhere my mom had that should on Google Calendar Google calendar so fucking send me an alert saying yo Habibi Yella Yella oil prices are low you got a fast today and I didn’t I didn’t fast that day but today I did my first day. The whole day bro fucking from sunrise to sunset. I didn’t even Nothing. I mean, that is nothing but I did my taxes. I did like I did a little bit of work for my job. And there’s like a portfolio for my job. And I played fuckin Witcher 3 I don’t even play video games, bro. But I bought that game I use it on the auction on on eBay. Yeah, like a $50 assumption like the $50 thing. I got it for like $18 and there’s about two to 300 hours of gameplay. So, I mean, there’s time very rarely much to do, bro. I’m just like, I’m gonna show you my books. All I’ve been doing right now you’re just studying. You can see. You said this. Yeah, yeah. So all I’ve been doing is like studying this LSAT prep tests masters fucking Lao Tzu and all that You wanna? You want to know a tricky question that’s on now set logic.
Zeke: Go ahead.
Water: What happens? What happens once a year, but twice a week?
Zeke: Once a year, but twice a week?
Water: Yeah. That should be the first line of this episode. Yeah, mental, mental fucking, you know? Then your viewers will be thinking about that the whole fucking time. Like, what the fuck is the answer to it? I’m not gonna tell you I’ma let you think about it, because these are the kind of brain puzzles they fucking Yeah.
Zeke: Remember, one of my coworkers was studying for the LSAT, a couple years ago.
Water: Yeah.
Zeke: He had questions. I was like, better than me.
Water: Was one of the most hardest exams. I think, at least with medical on the medical exam everything is pretty much linear you just have to know how to apply it apply concepts with this you got to think outside the fucking box. Just to find conclusions one plus one isn’t always three I mean to be in math.
Zeke: Like nothing was a meme.
Water: Word so when you figure out the answer let me know
Zeke: Yo I think I heard this before I can’t remember.
Water: Good so yeah so it’s like a four hour exam three hour exam. Each section is fucking time it’s like a legal SAT.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: Yeah same shit.
Zeke: I saying I ain’t going to the school anytime soon. GMAT, nothing like that.
Water: You are so you take an online class some semesters not over yet right?
Zeke: Nah I graduated.
Water: Oh word last year?
Zeke: I graduated last year 2019. Yeah
Water: Oh with me then. Yeah. Oh shit. Okay. So yeah, I just I don’t know, I don’t know how people are handling this I guess if people are graduating this year. However, this is going to get their diploma mailed or some shit or.
Zeke: Yeah they sign a petition to tell all push back graduation.
Water: So I think people should get a refund too, especially if they’re dorming. Oh, yeah, refund from that, you know, that’s only fair. Like normally it’s like close to $10,000 a semester 5000
Zeke: I know groups in the email where like the distant danger, dude, it’s like graduating they give you all your money back if you’re not given credit for next year.
Water: Oh, okay.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: All right. That makes sense. That makes sense. So yeah, man. So besides your, your software, your your website, like in the past like month and a half. And how are you how you been staying sane?
Zeke: I’ve been playing Spider Man PS4 I started playing that this week. Last year, I had this 2018 I bought it day one but just never had time to play it.
Water: Word word word.
Zeke: I finished the main story. Some
Water: How many hours?
Zeke: It’s like 20 something like that.
Water: Oh, so it’s a quick game then. Sure.
Zeke: Yeah. I haven’t finished the map yet cuz there’s different task to do the map of New York City.
Water: So like side quests.
Zeke: Yeah, once I finish that number to the side, I’m gonna do the DLC.
Water: So is it accurate? Like when you fly through Manhattan Are you are you like yo I smoked a fatty over there. You know, go go pop up to the corner store. You’re gonna see five minutes. More this week on your, on your on your podcast, baby. Do they know that you care for them? Are you are pro legalization or are you conservative?
Zeke: I don’t smoke myself I like I’m pro legalization because I think is a is one of the things where if there are any like, I’m not well versed in any of this, but it is research Why have people come down it’s better they like painkillers like that. And then people should be able to okay then that’s like where my basis all right all right.
Water: So tell me like, what’s your my bad? What’s your like? For your, your podcast? I see your sweater. It says let’s gather together. Let’s get another podcast. Yeah, it’s got a podcast. So what’s your like theme like what’s what’s your drive? What do you want? Do you want to do a podcast?
Zeke: When I decided it was more like I didn’t know what I was gonna do during the summer 2019 So when I was trying to figure out what to do suppose one of my public affairs professor, he was showing me like resumes of career help. And he said to do like information interviews with people.
Water: Okay, okay.
Zeke: And then I decided to make them to a podcast I didn’t know what the ask and what I didn’t know to ask.
Water: Just learning.
Zeke: Yeah. Cuz I was trying to do like marketing stuff like that, but he was like, he doesn’t see me sitting at a desk working.
Water: Okay, they make more money though marketing. I have a marketing and creative team. Like someone I’m a quota 80 to 110,000 Plus, like signing bonuses here, you know, so this money to be made broke, but you know, if it’s not for you, ain’t nobody gonna force it.
Zeke: Yeah, that’s what I study. I changed majors a second time. But I’ll put that in. I was like, let me make a podcast because I knew a bunch of people and all my friends are still doing their own stuff. For projects, and then I could use that as like momentum like help them and help myself at the same time. And then when it came down to like just picking who it was just anybody in Baruch who’s like right next to me for the first user, like, you’re here and I’m here, we can just do it.
Water: Right. Okay. All right. So the main project is to just learn from each other and build. Yeah. Okay, okay. I could fuck with that. You, you expand it towards YouTube, right? Yeah. Is that your main medium?
Zeke: I have it, both like audio and video. And then YouTube is going slowly, and they like different audio’s or just in all the different platforms. Let’s somebody find it on Apple.
Water: Dude, the more views you get maybe in like three to five months, three to six months, you could get a sponsorship of a video game or of anything really and they pretty much pay you and you’ll be making money. while learning and building with the collaboration of people.
Zeke: Yeah that’s like this season as opened up to like different more people in the area like professionals on there now stuff like that. I’m just slowly building up my network.
Water: Okay, okay give me one second just clean my chair real quick there you go probably
Zeke: Because I was going to go to like different events and stuff like that this year. Meet people and traveling give wristbands stuff like that but with everything that’s kind of happened
Water: Where do you where do you want to travel to?
Zeke: No to like like for like promote the podcasts to like different events.
Water: Oh like at Baruch.
Zeke: Not even Baruch outside of Baruch and everything. Just like if I was going to Eventbrite say, look, here’s an event. I can just meet to go meet people that was my plan but
Water: Collaborate, collaborate with intellectuals. No, maybe some ladies to you know what I mean, like are you doing?
Zeke: Because the first guest for this season she had um, she has like an old workshop she does. Like there’s a shift for me to one but the kind of guy case because all the health reasons. But all right, well, with everything opened up, see that opens again and then I can go there and meet people there that just stays in network and spans of years or something like that.
Water: So slowly like with what’s going on, like how do you how do you see yourself like growing? How do you see your brand growing?
Zeke: That is more focused on this season and then learning from a third from last season to say that seems more and more experimental just trying to figure out how would that was my workflow was I didn’t have one at that time and then with that is more of as I was I get I am now allowed the two weeks to a break, I give them two seasons, it gives me time to like record and then I can edit. Okay, now edit the negative become more consistent because I’ll have to like, find the clips. During like the season, I could just have everything for each episode in the folder and then when the times comes, I just plug it in into the different videos. And then I become more consistent and more consistent. The more people see it, the more people have a rhythm of what you want to how you move.
Water: Right. And also another thing is this, this this goes against, I guess journalistic integrity. Thorough headlines are very important. Yeah, very important. Because let’s say I’m taking a dump or, or I’m on the train or something, or walking in and going through Facebook or YouTube or whatever. And we’re looking at different headlines. Photos, tags events data, but then I see okay, I’m looking at yours because I have that buy in so you’re my boyfriend You’re my homie so I’m obviously I’m obviously gonna click it and then you know check it out. But then people who don’t know you Yeah, I’m good headline is an attention grabber and then first 30 seconds of your podcast should keep them interested in listening to that’s how you I guess expand your market you know have more viewers more eventually more sponsors and then just build last Let’s gather podcast you know
Zeke: Cuz right now this is more of refining use this season two refine everything and then probably like third seasons more like expansion.
Water: Okay okay gotcha that works
Zeke: Just hammering the small details.
Water: Yeah when you think this thing is gonna clear up?
Zeke: I have no idea when it gonna clear up because one of one of my students asked me that and I was like probably fall still going to be similar with the schools will be like close because I mean that’s that’s a big group of people to be around that’s that’s too much I think smaller things are going to start opening up where you can distance. But like my table like probably Mom and Pop shops but like even then like small businesses.
Water: I don’t usually grow my hair out as long brother you see me with the basketball haircut and maybe like a four five right now I’m looking like DJ Calvin’s cousin
Zeke: Yeah I was going my hair anyway but I need my sides cut cuz I’m trying to get my braids back.
Water: Word I need a tape up I need a fade.
Zeke: Yeah, but I think small business where you can this can also be limited to like 10 people in the shop, depending on the size. Where was like big events and stuff like that. I don’t see happening anytime soon. So I think next year probably will be like when we can start opening it up like probably like, you know, somewhere we can start to opened up.
Water: Next year like next year.
Zeke: Yeah, like 2021.
Water: So you’re actually closer to Fauci prediction. He’s saying 18 months.
Zeke: Yeah, cuz the thing is, since we don’t know who sick and who’s not the minute a bunch of people get closer together. It’s a snowball effect. Yeah, we see now with Florida, when everyone went to the beach and then all the students in the university not all of them like a good number of them had corona.
Water: You I read this article, I’m not sure if it was on Bloomberg comm or New York Times, but we’ll talk about two articles. Yeah, the first article was on the 1920 Spanish Flu they the government made a mistake. Letting people out too early. Yeah. The following week after people were let out 192,000 people were killed. And that’s a lot of fucking people, bro. Especially in 1920. Yeah, those people now, by 1920, that’s
Zeke: A billion people on Earth.
Water: Yeah not even a billion. You said they were how much was there? What was the total population?
Zeke: For the world a billion, so around a billion.
Water: So And right now, how much are we like four? So,
Zeke: Yes, seven point something, or seven.
Water: So, right now we’re seven, or roughly seven times more population as it was in 1920. Yeah, so 192 times seven is roughly 1.35 million people. Yeah. people died within a week of paying everybody back into public. Yeah.
Zeke: So we just got to be careful.
Water: Understand the correlation data now. So if, let’s say And so yeah, exactly. So we let people out too early, people gonna get sick again and then the fucking cycle gets even worse,
Zeke: I think is might be endemic where it’s just another part of life that we had to live with. Like the flu. Like, like, like, we live with the flu like we all have a cure for the flu, right? Yeah. So we kind of we just all expect that every year people will get the flu, we will get sick. So that’s something that we’ll come on to that is going to be like another thing where we just kind of this is like a shock for once become an everyday part of life that we kind of get normalized, because normalize don’t think about it as much.
Water: Bro like, you know, MJ he got he got AIDS, right. He had AIDS.
Zeke: Who?
Water: Magic
Zeke: Yeah, but you said MJ I was confused.
Water: Magic he got he got AIDS that was like in the 90s I belive. You know, I read articles and saw documentaries on a yo he was almost as promiscuous as well, wilt would be fucking like eight to 10 girls a day. Yeah. Before games after games, he was clean 1990 Magics doing like maybe similar numbers, and he got AIDS, right? Well, he’s alive. Yeah. He has resources as in money and public connections with certain higher ups. I believe they already have they already have cures to cancer, AIDS and all of that is Coronavirus. I believe they do have a cure to it. But only a select, like, room of people know about it as money if if let’s say a cure for cancer was made public. Like chemotherapy is like $100,000 treatment. And that’s how people like Bill Gates and Melinda Gates make money from su selling medicine. So like the public is stupid so they could tell public whatever they want but I put pieces together bro like and this makes me think like this this government doesn’t really want the best for us fam.
Zeke: Uh yeah you can see there were certain certain decisions when there was a oh this gonna happen to the economy so the stop all our stocks and those uh huh well they make sense for you without theres a lady who um cured I think it was HIV or inside rats something like that in the UK people get in like treatment with it in different countries so they’re doing like well like a public view they’re making progress.
Water: I hope bro are you looked at doctor Sebi and we looked at his treatments is natural alkaline high alkaline pH level nine that naturally cleans out your body, within, like close to the peak of his marketing and expansion he was killed. I mean, was he killed or did he die of natural causes?
Zeke: Think he died.
Water: Natural causes right?
Zeke: I think so I don’t I don’t think he was killed. I don’t remember hearing anything about that.
Water: So yeah, so scratch that. So I read another article by credible source New York Times. That said the COVID-19 like testing tubes, right the fucking syringe that they put all the way to the back of your mind.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: No.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: You know what, I’m talking about Yeah, fucking big ass syringe. The New York Times you can look it up right now anybody who’s watching. Let’s get together podcast. There’s a thing that said those I believe a percentage of the treatment The swabs that already had COVID on it. Yeah. So while they’re doing test, the people putting it all up their nose and whatever they’re promoting and expanding the Coronavirus intentionally, unintentionally. I don’t know. Even though I’m pretty sure it is intentional. This gets me frustrated bro. Like more and more the more I do the more digging I do. Yeah. Or mad I get like the government don’t give a fuck about it.
Zeke: Uh nah what numbers?
Water: Huh?
Zeke: What numbers?
Water: We have numbers. I mean, that’s towards this idea of revolution. And most people under lazy ass is not going to revolt. They’re there. They’re people who are educated, yet uninformed, are the ones that you know, would believe me, maybe not cated but they would believe everything that government tells them and not even want to do anything about it. And then those who are informed and want to do stuff thing they’re worried about their day to day necessities, like their bills, putting food on the plate, you know, shit like that. So those are two variables that are stopping revolution. But it is necessary and I think it’s gonna happen.
Zeke: I just the only thing about that is how do we stop from going back? Were we recently had it like we both you aren’t happy with the system now but if we vote, right, how do we prevent the same system from committing or maybe the same system or like the same problems coming in here?
Water: So you look at history right there every single Empire, every single society, every single civilization, there are ups and downs, there’s golden arrows, and then there’s times of famine and like poverty, right. And and during each cycle, there’s either war, war and expansion or internal revolution. Yeah. Persian Empire Ottoman Empire Mongol Empire, it was an eventual point where somebody from the inside or something within the inside internal infrastructure led to a crack of the of the, of the mirror of the whole puzzle. And like Rome, Caesar. Caesar was killed within he was poisoned or whatever. I don’t know. I don’t know if he was killed from his crew from from somebody that was in his house, in his in his like,
Zeke: Bunch of people.
Water: Yeah. Wow, what else you got? You know, there’s, there’s a couple of societies like that. Well, let’s look at one that’s very relative to us. 1700 we left Europe because we didn’t want to be. We didn’t like what was going on, right? Yeah. Yeah, we were. We were persecuted religiously, and all that. We’d left Europe on the Mayflower and then came over here. Pretty much committed genocide, and killed all the Native Americans. But that’s a whole different. I’m not gonna lead to that to that side of the topic. But yeah, yeah, we didn’t like what was going on in Europe, we left and led our own society in a new location. That’s a form of evolution. Yeah. And once the Europeans came here started war, we defended ourselves against them. And then couple couple, like 100 years later, there was a civil war with slavery. Yeah. Slaves did not like what was going on to them. The white man pretty much entitled and use the Bible and say, why it is good. Black is bad. And slavery is justified. You know? Yeah, that happened for how long until people said fuck that. I don’t want that happened. No more.
Zeke: Good number of years but it was also like those small rebellion but they It was kind of like, it was a different part. It wasn’t like one collective thing. Even then you still have like prison, which is people think so of count as slavery.
Water: Yeah, I mean, it’s not it’s like a similar form of it. I’m just showing you examples of how this happiness. This is the echoes of civilization. It’s like happiness thriving, building growing. Yeah, there’s a point there’s a point where, naturally something fucks up, you know, somebody gets too greedy or there’s like a disease, or war or some shit. And the cycle starts over again. Yeah, due to that break. So given the patterns of fucking history since the beginning of man is going to happen again there’s going to be a revolution within the next 50 years I believe. I believe that maybe our kids
Zeke: Theses been a lot of revolts all around the world last year and the year before that, where every other country just had people protesting and stuff like
Water: That. More, more like in I can fucking Egypt, like in between 2007 2007 to like 2015 it was a waves of wrath Valley and we did not like what was going on with government. Oh gee, I forgot his name. He was just doing a bunch of stuff like, you know, backdoor deals, where he would just take money and not give a fuck about the people, you know? And that was one location. We had a revolution in Argentina and South America with Che Guevara. We had even if working in China right now, the students in Shanghai are rebelling against the communist state. Yeah, yes. So Oh, this is interesting. So you have China you have all the boats are going on over there. You have the student rebels rebellion going on, and protests going on in Shanghai. Then you have The shift where they’re where they’re detaining Muslim civilians. If you’ve read about that I heard about a call to you Gore. You are Muslim. So China right now they have a bunch of shit going on under the umbrella of communism. And right now during the Coronavirus for all of these third world countries, like yeah, the economy is fucking staggered, and people are doing and they can work. Right? So China right now giving the money like, Hey, here’s $50 million, but I own you pretty much in a nice way. You know, they’re increasing their sovereignty where they’re like, okay, you need help right now, here’s 100 million dollars, but in the future, when I need something I own you, or something like that. Like that’s pretty much what the contract is saying.
Zeke: That’s in Africa
Water: Yeah Africa too bro like shit. Ah, man, this makes me very pessimistic about the overall motives of our government, which is why I’m studying law. You know? I want to know the rules of the game so nobody can try to gee me. No, I’m serious. Even if even if somebody folks would do some I really try to fuck with you, you know, a lawyer like two $300 an hour. This hidden up but I Yo, this is what’s going on give me like a quick 92nd like, you know, skeleton of what’s going on and I’ll help you out. Just like you know, buy me some chicken parmesan. Yeah.
Zeke: There a lot of hidden rules that people don’t know. Good access, and then you just gotta see as you go up, you kind of figure out okay, this helps people not everybody was built the same playing field but he got rise to that challenge.
Water: Ah, Yo, I was talking about this with my other homie the day like yo and the In high school we learn about fucking sedimentary rocks. Yeah, right. Well we have to that class you ever fucking needed to know what the fuck a sedimentary rock was? Nope.
Zeke: I haven’t heard that word since I was in the 5th grade.
Water: (inaudible) great, right? Yeah, no, they teach they teach us about some bullshit fucking teach us about those bull shit as rocks. But they don’t teach us about taxes they don’t teach us about investments they don’t teach us about, like how to build your money and not be homeless. You know? So things like this show me the the motive, the grand motive, the big picture of what the government wants? No, it’s just a bunch of bullshit.
Zeke: Yes, my school may fall late to make you make workers and listen meant to make Like, Jesus would, that’s why you’re gonna see like, people who like event things kind of, or out the normal because you have to have that kind of mindset to be like, I’m gonna do this and just never been done before. But Right, right, right. I see in my head and I’m making a real realization. Like, this is a special kind of mindset you either have like, like a tunnel vision to get there in schools myth or like, every like, everybody learns all the same thing. So you’re kind of going to the same, like the same pockets. Yeah, so you could even call us is different. But even then you still have like the same structure.
Water: Yeah, yeah, we’re the same structure does different subjects. Yeah. Once I was an engineer, once a doctor, you know, doesn’t really promote creativity and makes us more submissive. Yeah. Like what the bell like Pavlov’s bell that trains dogs. Yeah. And you know how in like college, we not College in like high school. And like public school, we have the bell that tells us when to stand up and go somewhere else. So it’s like a submission, submissive form of mind control.
Zeke: Yeah, this is like this. We do and you just work in a set. And then while she was like, this doesn’t work for me, and then you got to figure out the bug. That’s why. Well talking to my professor, I was reading into that. I also was like a desk like most jobs I seen was this like, this is a desk job, unless you will be like artists, but then you hear about the struggling artist and stuff like that. Well, the starving artist he kind of had to figure out how to like, what job would that be? Like what? And I think with Corona right now, it’s going to force people to reevaluate things like that, because they had to be prepared for anything that happens like this and the more jobs are gonna be the more things like because like I I don’t know I hear this for like most jobs you’ll need all like the nine to five to do everything in the morning
Water: Definitely don’t need the whole nine to five to finish your top we finish your topics
Zeke: Yeah so you so you just do like most of in the morning and then like they also be like to make sure the days and you’ll need a five day like seven to five five to seven day week for most jobs you just cut it down to like four and then this is like forcing people like forcing jobs to like think about like costs and then emergency like if people needed all be separated. How can we how can we do this online, but we don’t have to meet. Like a meeting that means nothing. At the end of the day for most people.
Water: Word. I read I got an interesting that’s an interesting idea. I agree you don’t need a whole nine to five to finish your topics. Because your task excuse me, because when I go to work, I’m given, like a set portfolio and guidelines of the test I have to do. I might have like four to five projects to work on. I’ll have to find research for project one, I would have to find locations for project two, I would have to call certain people. This all could be done if I really tried realistically in like, three hours. Yeah, no, I’m saying so. So if I saw that nine, I would finish at 12 go on an hour or half an hour lunch. That still gives me four and a half four hours to pursue something else like a side hustle to go running or working out or, or something else, you know? Yeah, like what’s it called in in Japan, they try it out the four day workweek, and the level of happiness increased 28% after like, after, like fucking a month.
Zeke: Yeah, as you can see like on for like the 80s is not like that. It was like more like a when a cubicle. You see the old move the cubicle, everybody’s Computer Aided by the 1890 movie, everybody was working. And like, it’s more competition than now you see more. And now here is more collaboration. And there’s more open space because in our own market places I’ve been to there’s not there’s not cubicles where everybody has a computer, like they have space and they just kind of all specify, so they have their own liking because some people have curved computers. So if you have standing desks, and stuff like that, I think this is a physical force is another evolution of how the workspace looks.
Water: Okay. So based on those two different settings, the 1980s workplace versus 2020 workplace. I mean happiness as a question but also what about production.
Zeke: I haven’t looked into that, but is more productive thing right now is more productive because more people are happier with your job, then you also get to do a more enthusiastically competitive you just like competition the moment the minute you’re not number one, you’re going to feel bad for yourself and then you’re going to slowly but surely, like lose interest in a new lead that like leave the job physically believe it mentally. Okay. And then see that and then then it becomes a big turnaround for the job like people going in but again, burnt out quickly. Yeah. And they had to spend money.
Water: Word also a plus, that is people live longer, if they’re happier, and if they’re producing more. Yeah, that’s another thing. Hmm. That’s an interesting concept. But think about that ideology, especially with the old school conservative CEOs and heads of heads of conglomerates, they want production production production, they want you to work work work, like yeah, play and make them make them and their shareholders money. Mm hmm. So it’s hard to get that cultural change. No, this is some places that are like that, like we work, even though we work is nothing going bankrupt. But yeah. There’s couple of there’s a couple of companies that are taking that workplace environment into, into into check. Like, especially in the West Coast, like in the West Coast, a lot of offices and office buildings, they have actually like fucking Google. Google has a fucking big ass complex out of the university type place in San Francisco near Silicon Valley, where they’re working workers live in this pretty much as big town. That’s Google. I don’t know the name of it, but it’s pretty much like a Google town where the buildings are location x. They have have apartment locations, literally like a five minute bike ride from the building. They have restaurants like a mini city pretty much, you know. So, and they have like a playground, they have games, they have a bunch of stuff. Thing is, they have the luxury to do that. Because they have all this money. They got Google money. Yeah. Like, man, you let’s, Let’s Gather Podcasts. We can’t fucking do that. You know, but I do agree. I believe that more companies should transition into that, um, I like that level of like, work environment, you know? Yeah. People aren’t miserable, but they’re producing and they’re happy.
Zeke: People who work on like the big four, they burn out a lot and then they moves like smaller But does it need that name on they resume to get that next job.
Water: Bro I intern at Goldman Sachs, my sophomore year they it’s it’s there’s money there. Yeah, there’s old generation money there. But they treat you like fucking shit bro. Like, get me this, this and this and this I don’t give a fuck about you, you know is this you’re pretty much a means to an end. Yeah, there’s not much value there you know, and I was going to graduate two years after that I did not want to work there or intern there for another two years without a full time or part time offer hasn’t been paid and they’re not going to do that. Yeah, I told myself isn’t worth being somebody bitch for two years to get at 80 racks when I graduate. Yeah, what I’m saying where I can when I can get something like before I graduate and get 72 rack starting and then grow from there after I get my law degree.
Zeke: You got to figure out because for some people that just push it out for like a second like three to five years I can deal with this get the money and then scale down and live comfortably others kind of need accountability and marketing they’re all community right now like well community base and more open spaces work and I was interning pretty much that I had to wear like professional clothes or even business casual. I was the first one that I saw slowly dress down I got more comfortable. So wear my seekers again. And so was like, was able to want
Water: Went in Pjs?
Zeke: Nah.
Water: Spongebob Pj’s. You know I always I would be gangster though Imagine waking up as a CEO of your company. Then go and check in to box and like Gucci slippers and like fucking fucking Egyptian tie in and silk fucking drawers or straight into work and be like yo this is my contract and do whatever the fuck I want this is
Zeke: It dependable be more like a power move if we do like a business transaction and you want to own mess whatever whoever else is next whoever you’re negotiating with the big like I did this like I can do this because I will have more money or obligation joke to the company anyways. Just stop you like he was like there was anything because you’re the boss where it was like okay.
Water: Well if you’re making me money and being productive I’m okay. I’ve interesting question if you were able to make a company right now what would you what kind of company Would it be like anything? It doesn’t matter if it was done already, but I mean, like, what kind of company would it be?
Zeke: I would say media because media touches a little, a little bit of everything. And it gives in communication. Yeah, it gives it more to get the source of all different things. I’m not just talking like one mindset. And that’s like creativity like creative things. So with media, you there’s more different all the different things you could focus on like, like of course online, like television, stuff like that. And then like marketing, so that you so you have your hands at different things.
Water: Okay, what would the name of your company be? Oh, no, I get that.
Zeke: I’m thinking about what you the podcast, think about making it bigger by having like a night above it. Like, I don’t know, but this is more like a couple years out. ideas as I as I keep going to make the podcast They have like the different verses under it because on this I’m not sure you heard about Earn Your Leisure this a podcast I listened to a lot we they um Earn Your Leisure.
Water: Earn Your Leisure like like okay.
Zeke: Yeah so plan was a business like I listen to where they send us a podcast and then they expand into like now they have like different events and stuff like that they have like all your leisure University with a guest come in and they speak to the line they speak to the different people who pay for like their own university. They feel like a like an online university in a sense. Okay. So like, I was thinking more like expanding and then building and then branding myself differently because they took off podcast when they named for just Earn Your Leisure because they’re not just a podcast. They have a bunch of different things.
Water: So that’s like the evolution of the brand. Yeah. Yeah so that’s your next step so right now you’re all your Charmander level 13 but then we go where we gotta we gotta go steps you gotta you know we got to train you know eventually we get to smash Misty right.
Zeke: I think before the app in the meantime we’ll make a PDF or like a book about how to start your own podcast because everybody’s gonna actually buy bins people’s want to ask now is this easier said was top of my head of like, what I’ve done is just like write things down. And then I can make it attend the website and then people could download it for themselves and go from there.
Water: Word and then eventually you get some foot traffic and get some sponsors and then as you build you’re getting paid to do what you love. Yeah.
Zeke: Yeah, and then you need multiple of multiple streams of income to.
Water: There you go. There you go. Why, bro if you need a lawyer you know? Yeah yeah man. So I think all the podcast started already right this is this is the podcast it’s
Zeke: Pretty much pretty much I could cut it in usually I’ll ask the person what would the origin story be like actually right now?
Water: My origin story,
Zeke: You know like the first question and then we get to this discussion but we’ve been talking for like an hour.
Water: Yeah. Organic, organic on the flow no script. You know we free Yeah, my origin story, okay. How do people not like what other people do I’m gonna let you do what I do. So my origin story I’m gonna keep it simple but precise. I came into this country due to a lot lottery in my country. Yeah, in my country there is like a lotto of millions of people. And I believe one or two families or one family is chosen and they’re granted a Travel Visa, I believe. Yeah, Travel Visa. Yeah. So when I was a young one year, I was like wondering when you’re when you’re old. My dad he applied cuz my mom told him to get off the couch. And he did. We won. We came here. I learned English from watching signs know from watching Simpsons and Dragonball Z. When I was like three years old, I swear to God, it was on channel 22 Cartoon Network. Yeah, remember, that was Dragon Ball Z braEd, Edd n Eddy and a bunch of,
Zeke: My childhood right there.
Water: Yeah, it’ll make cars To the same no more. But um yeah, so that’s that’s part one. Chapter Two was high school, trying to figure out myself what I liked my family there how BBs wanted me to be a doctor. Know what I’m saying? You gotta get a 90 you gotta get 100 on every exam. Yeah, you got to become a doctor. Gotta be you know, number one and all that. Yeah. And sophomore year of high school, sophomore, junior year. I had a epiphany. Where I’m like, I’m not gonna I’m not Yeah, I’m gonna be no doctor.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: You know. And when I was 19 18, I mean 18 19 I was arrested for smoking weed in Central Park. I like smoking a Jay in Central Park with three of my homies and we will arrested It was like we say like a night in bookings. I was 19, bro. And at that point, I realized there was a flaw in the game. There was something wrong with weed. I ain’t doing nothing wrong, bro. I’m just you know, happy, hungry, sleepy. I’m bothering nobody. We might find it just enjoy nature and shit. But these cops got to fill their quota on some stigma of, of anti anti ganja. You know what I’m saying? Yeah, at that point, about six, seven years ago, I was like, You know what, there’s a flaw in this game. I gotta learn the rules. And throughout high school and college, I would always connect people with what they needed. legal and illegal. Yeah. Yeah. So given those two ideas, there’s hatred towards the system. And this entity administers energy of mine that connect people with what they need. Shoes, cars. Watch whatever. Selling and flipping whatever I can get my hands on, you know. And I combine those two ideas, this tape of the legal of the game, and this philanthropic hustling mentality towards becoming a lawyer. I want to protect people from getting screwed. But also I want to connect them with what they want. Let’s say you want to buy a house or you want to get something but there’s fine print behind it. Or somebody’s trying to screw you over. How connect you to what you need, and protect you at the same time from other people trying to get to your pockets or hurt you know, so that’s the pieces of energy that put my puzzle together. Nice. That’s my origin story.
Zeke: Something like a book?
Water: What happened?
Zeke: So what kind of medium would it be like a book? Like a movie video game? Ah.
Water: Oh no, bro. I’m gonna once I get my law degree I’m gonna either have to work for somebody who has a practice. And then from there, I’m going to have a niche. A niche of law has to be a specific entry of laws. Thinking of focusing on litigation and contracts, they’re both very broad, and I can cover many topics. And once less I work for a firm that focuses on let’s say, company x wants to buy land in, in China, or Italy, or Spain, or Africa or Argentina, you know, I will do my research. And let’s say the fine print, like the tariffs for how much time the pay was, if I buy a lead in this country, what are the rules over there? Things that the buyer wouldn’t necessarily know. Yeah, I have to contact after that. I’ll have to contact legal jurisdiction and politicians over there and set up like paperwork and make sure My team doesn’t get screwed over. So I wouldn’t say I’m gonna write a book or a video game, I would first work for a law firm, build knowledge and experience and capital, from there, eventually make my own LLC, my own firm, my own company. And then at that point is going to be like five to 10 years from now, at that point, I’ll have capital to buy a location, set up an LLC, and have investments on the side like apartment buildings or intellectual stuff. And then from there after I’m done building my legacy, eventually, we’ll do our well. Maybe not what I’m done, but not the progress of the path. I could, you know, I could, I wish I could have podcasts like this with you, you know, and be like, Hey, this is what I did. I know many people share the same struggles that I did. They were lost or they just didn’t want to didn’t know what they wanted. You know, which is normal.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: To help people know I’m saying,
Zeke: Yes, I like I like helping people. So that’s like when it comes to like tutoring and mentoring. A lot of people keep like,I need to do jobs like that. But then I’m also good at creativity and stuff like that. So I’m just trying to figure out what’s that balance.
Water: And the beauty of your podcast and the energy and theme of your podcast, you’re not limited. You’re just going to talk about math, or science only as broad you can go anywhere you want. And that’s the beauty and openness about it.
Zeke: That’s why I wanted to be like that, but I knew that it’s gonna be harder to all grow because not a central topic. So when the time a new person comes in for like a specific episode, if the episodes not like the next one is not like the same thing to them, most likely not gonna come back, but it gives who’s not gonna come back. Like they say like hypothetically. Like um say like Sam comes in like our anime episode. And then they seemed like there was that one. But then the next episode is about like politics. So back, they they might be only into like anime stuff when it comes to politics when I took on that episode. That’s like, that’s why it’s harder to grow because it’s not like no such a topic, but as limited if you do such a topic, so there’s a doubt my brain was like, which one’s worse but more.
Water: Like it’s like a double edged sword. Which one do you choose?
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: It’s like a Hello?
Zeke: Yeah, yeah. It was like, which,
Water: I mean if I were you brah If I were you, I mean, I mean, it’s cool. Everybody’s gonna have things that they like and that they don’t don’t like. Yeah, but this is not this is not their account. This is your podcast. Yeah. Oh, fuck that, bro. You’re talking about whatever the fuck you want. Whatever you find interesting, whatever you find genuinely helpful to you and others and then as a viewer If you’re if my if my mind is so limited that that’s like, Oh, he’s only talking about this once and this, and another thing another time. Oh, I don’t wanna listen to him. It just shows to me that I’m stubborn. I don’t want things my way. If it doesn’t work any other way, I’m not gonna I’m not gonna, you know, compromise. You don’t want viewers like that on your fucking podcast anyway. Yeah. Like, in order to grow if you want to, if you want to grow like, there’s gonna be like, Yo, I’m gonna eat cheese all day for the rest of my life. We don’t have a cheeseburger. I don’t like you. Yeah.
Zeke: But without even that, this just, yeah. Just as your general desires better for me because I could sell to anybody who wants and is easy to find guests at that point. Because anyone can be on it.
Water: Yeah, that to word. word
Zeke: And then and then keep popping up in different countries I was like who these people?
Water: What do you mean?
Zeke: Because I have views in the Netherlands UK Switzerland South Africa Cyprus united arab immunities Vietnam Spain Brazil.
Water: Okay, okay, so you gotta you got a diverse fanbase yeah it is we no populates what he’s he’s our viewers or subscribers
Zeke: They download so for specific episode they download
Water: Solid, okay so I showed you here that your diverse fan base bro like you’re not just vanilla guy you like strawberry and chocolate so yeah no and that’s good. sure Netherlands and Cypress shit. Yeah bro yo just for each different episode. You should have a very, very hook like A headline that grabs you know what I’m saying? Yeah, get that get that grabber so I could click on the link, then I’m gonna I’m gonna realize to myself if I want to continue watching or listening to your podcast within like a minute of your podcast, you know, and that first minute could be, like my origin story or that question, what happens once a year but twice a week? more stuff like, Oh, your peak Trump’s hairline or something like that? Yeah. Oh, that should sells. And honestly, if, at this point in the beginning of your brand, you want to expand so keep your integrity but also be like, you know, like poppin.
Zeke: So I’m just doing this and then there’s doing myself right now. So when I figure out all of like, most of the kinks, I can This team and then I have things in place. And then when they’re when they can also redefine if they found something that’s better than about Okay, cool. Let’s try that. I don’t mean like what do you mean build a team like build a team of what? I just work like different things like some people work on the audio, some people work on like the video, some people do promotions, social media stuff like that different entities, I’m not doing everything, because that’s not work. Or, and then right now I just have to figure out what’s the workflow is and anything that comes up, I can say figure out the problem. And then after this, we’ll make the team that get to tell what I’ve been doing, and then they see anything that we can fix, then I will be all ears.
Water: Word word, man shit.
Zeke: And then if you get a team
Water: Go ahead, continue continue.
Zeke: If you build a team then you’re, you’re able to focus on one thing and then you’re able to put all your effort into it and not split yourself in to pieces, and then that one thing becomes better. And everybody do now one thing, then you have a bunch of like, like a Voltron of all the different pieces are great. You can only get to pick a better part.
Water: Right, right. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I believe in you, son. Are you got this? Yeah. When did you? When was your first? Excuse me? When was your first podcast? Like how long ago?
Zeke: I recorded it in December, but I released it in January 22 25th something like that.
Water: Of this year right?
Zeke: Yeah. The week of Kobe die.
Water: Oh shit,
Zeke: Yeah, that was like the weekend
Water: Heavy. Oh shit.
Zeke: Yeah, cuz I had it planned already dead. And I was like, because I built um own schedule of 10 episodes a season and then two months in between each season. And then I was like, I just do every Wednesday because I knew I was a little weak. When I was like, that’s stupid because I’m one person and I’m a burnout. Now we keep up. Right, right, right. So so we just pre record and to do 30 episodes a year, keep it nice and simple. So I know this scheduling as I go.
Water: Wow, bro Yo, Kobe’s death.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: That was so long ago but also not that long ago.
Zeke: It was only a couple months not to many
Water: No, not even two months, almost three months. Yeah. Yeah, shit, you know was crazy. I forgot about it. I’m a be real with you I forgot about it even until you brought it up right now.
Zeke: Yeah,
Water: I even forgot Kobe died.
Zeke: It’s not he not, You don’t expect it just like, he like he was like 40 he was like, going to live forever
Water: Word and he was Kobe like shit, with everything going on to the cycle information. meishan that going through the public’s mind is so fast the headline after headline after headline, yes, making sure you survive and you don’t die outside. You forget about information such as, Kobe one of the goats. Fucking dying.
Zeke: (inaudible) Yeah, that was like a clip and stuff like that. And I was like, I can’t do anything right now. I’m too sad. Then we just,
Water: We played we played ball together a couple times, right?
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Yeah word. I remember that. I’m gonna miss. I’m gonna miss Baruch’s basketball court. They had the best. They had the best gym in New York City.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: I think what’s his face the Portland Trailblazers went there Boston Celtics went there Miami Heat no Miami didn’t go there. Lakers, were there I think timberwolves were there once. Yeah, once. And who else? I think it was. Those were the four players. I mean, the four teams that I saw at that court
Zeke: Recently, recently, like when school was still in session, Utah Jazz was there.
Water: Oh word how when, like, while we went,
Zeke: Nah, well, well, now after when I was working. So it was like it was holding the door for them for them to get out the gym.
Water: Who you who you see Rudy Gobert?
Zeke: Nah I just seen the video though. It was Rudy Gobert oh my God.
Water: Word speaking about Gobert and then Donovan. They got beef. They ain’t shy. They did the only two that got the Coronavirus on the team. Rudy got it. Yeah. And then then Donovan got it. Donovan then afterwards. they they they did not like each other and I don’t know if they got traded or not. They got traded?
Zeke: No, I didn’t hear about that thing I just heard about don’t like each other and then they just kind of died down.
Water: Word or maybe they worked it out then, I guess I don’t know. I hope everything works on your bra like I was good with this Coronavirus I was happy I was alright. You know it’s a lot to fucking get to me. You know when it got to me after two things like in the NBA close
Zeke: Yeah that was,
Water: No more my fucking basketball games second thing was all like the basket the my rec center that’s like five minutes from my crib. Yeah, my gym by play ball where I go swimming and working out most of them close after that. I was just like damn this shit is serious.
Zeke: Like we’ll lose some money was like oh this is real.
Water: Oh no, I mean
Zeke: Not you and I talked about like businesses.
Water: Oh, yeah, word before for middle class homies like us, you know, basketball and gym was important to me right? I stayed why loosen up my Steam while I have fun with the homies. Just basketball. I fucking love basketball.
Zeke: Yeah, like this is called a basketball competition.
Water: What happened?
Zeke: I like the physical like competition for the basketball.
Water: Oh yeah, word. I just love the fact that Alright, so the reason why I played basketball using this cause I when I went to middle school, I was like, when I was 10 years old. I went to like 100 Middle School. Right and I was like a chubby fucking four foot 10 nerd. You know what I’m saying? I don’t know what titties were what what do you know? Anything? Well, I just knew Pokemon and fucking Gameboy and PlayStation. Yeah, you know what I’m saying? So I go to Is hood middle school? You know, and I’m trying to fit in and I and I’m like okay, I don’t want to get picked on I don’t want to sound too smart or do anything stupid. What is one thing that I should do during a gym class I pick up a basketball said fuck it started just doing like underhand throws I didn’t even know how to shoot regularly. First shot on your head. I was just like do a bucket shot you know and then slowly develop into like a full Ghazi slingshot. And then eventually, I learned the form by watching basketball. And I got I made it to the bath I was like a rookie on the basketball team became the most improved player and just fell in love with the fucking game right now you can have a bad day, you know, just go just go to court to shoot.
Zeke: I didn’t start playing until high school because that’s everybody talked about. And then we got the did that in gym class gym class that where we are like, not like tournaments way to people to certain team so you get to play each other. So basically, you can learn the game as you play I didn’t like basketball to a minute.
Water: You’re like,
Zeke: Nah, i wasn’t good at. So yeah, so the negative connotation of like
Water: That’s what I’m not gonna I’m gonna stick to everything else. We’re now what we’ll do eventually. I’m gonna well I mean if you didn’t like it, what made you continue?
Zeke: Not like Elementary, my mom tried to make me play it when I was younger. And then go I used to go to a park and play like for fun. Like if I was like it was a competition. I will do that. Middle school i didn’t play that much except for gym never got picked. And then high school I got I was I was always tall. So what
Water: I was the last pick too.
Zeke: In high school does that are watching more and then like paying attention because of 2K and then new started learning the players and everything and then when I got to Baruch I had like one time so I needed to do in my free time it was a gym more everybody else and then so I paid more then got competitive.
Water: Word word bro, and that issue is playoff time right now You know that right? Yes. There’s gonna be the first game of the playoffs like two three weeks ago by now we’re like in the semi finals. We should be man.
Zeke: Lebron going to get his third his fourth ring forKobe.
Water: LeBron was going to get as far as terrain. Yeah. Yeah, man, you know, it was crazy. Like after Kobe’s that something clicked in that locker room. Yeah. You realize how nice the fucking Lakers are playing.
Zeke: They’ll be yeah,
Water: Otherwise the beginning in the beginning they were like, when the first I think Lakers and Clippers yeah play like the first week Clippers spanked them. Yeah, my like 15 and I remember reading headlines we got a new king of the West. Yeah my assumption yeah and they were like it was quiet right and then after Kobe died this was like roughly Januaryish when you when your podcast came out I think yeah um and they started going on a brolic as win streak they like they won like 10 games last one or 20 games last three like they’re on fucking fire I believe I believe it would have been Lakers or the winner Laker versus the winner of Houston vs golden and I even go to state to say what’s the mechanism so not gonna be Lakers versus he was to Denver not targeting the Lakers. Lakers versus I think Milwaukee.
Zeke: Yeah, that was what I was wanting predicting too.
Water: I think he was gonna be king versus k nice versus West and Lakers would win because of experience and
Zeke: Yeah, and Lebron was like, I’m not gonna lose.
Water: And just he had that fire of like Kobe mentality bro like,
Zeke: And not even just Kobe like the whole family.
Water: They were beating and locking down yeah, yeah all the family to word. Yeah it was like eight people besides Kobe and his daughter that passed away.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Yeah, man shit. Shit, bro.
Zeke: It’d be those decisions.
Water: Do you have any plans for the next couple months?
Zeke: Next couple months um me. Just do the finishing touches on the website. So when they um the negatives focus on transcripts because Youtube have subtitles, but they they like time codes and they sometimes mistake because the audio and there are things on right now added to the website on my own. This
Water: That’s gonna be like detailed. Yeah. More you have to be you have to like be meticulous and focused on that. Yeah. Eventually you’re gonna eventually you’re gonna have a team that’s gonna do that for you. So yeah. Yeah. you know I’m saying
Zeke: I can show you right now like, where is it right here?
Water: Episode 25 Okay,
Zeke: So right now, I’ve been doing that and then you’ll have like the time code but isn’t just like this. So right now I’m listening to each episode. And then
Water: I’m not a dictate everybody’s fucking words.
Zeke: And this is the first episode there’s of us. So
Water: Damn. Fucking details, bro. Yeah, hours of work per episode. Yeah.
Zeke: But it’s all for the SEO that says search engine optimization.
Water: Oh yeah, facts definitely. You’re gonna have a more of a base of viewers. You know,
Zeke: And then Google could find it easier and it’s promoted to more people
Water: Word eventually you’re gonna hire, and have her do it you know for now we gotta do we gotta do the hard work
Zeke: Yeah cuz it costs money to have Somebody else do it and now have the kind of cash yet.
Water: Yeah, telling me bro.
Zeke: And then after that just finish Spider Man and then kind of see what the job market looking like and then speak to certain people about what should I do as a job shall do more or less stuff like this or do more teaching.
Water: Recovery bro gonna be can you be a good like even after they open up there’s gonna be a good like three months before things get even to the realm of being normal. Yeah, you think the job market for not like peasantry jobs but you think the job market for like careers especially for postgraduate is going to be is going to be saturated or is going to be open and like fluid for people like us.
Zeke: There’s going to be specific things. Give me one second
All Okay for like the job market, not even sure but I think certain jobs change certain jobs not just anymore in certain jobs, new jobs will be created.
Water: Okay, what kind of job you think are going to be created?
Zeke: I think a lot more online jobs or programming jobs will be created with um Travis Scott had that um online concert.
Water: Who had the online concert?
Zeke: Travis Scott of fortnight.
Water: Oh, boy, that was creative.
Zeke: Yeah, that’s gonna catch on word because as low costs and as on things people stay far away to access a video game that most a lot of people using.
Water: Word word,
Zeke: The more tech definitely being open medical. I think Yeah, because they kind of realize like even those like a shortage for like, more people are willing to do it for like, their own personal reasons. Like I want to be there the next time a pandemic happens more and then more people are higher for like just in case.
Water: I’m deaf that definitely well, logically they should know You’re definitely going to implement some kind of failsafe in play. You should have had a fill station play even before this has sprung up in December. You know, cuz Yo, bro, your job like Fauci his job, you guys paid millions and millions for compared the country for academics, not just informed them, prepare them. Yeah. It’s like saying, okay, a storm is coming right? You might not know if it’s a blizzard. Or if it’s gonna be a hurricane, a sandstorm, or something completely fucking new. But if we even if we know something bad is coming, we know how to go downstairs to our basement and like lock the windows. Put wood on the windows and shit like that to make sure we don’t die. Yeah, we don’t know what kind of fucking shit it is. But we know we can prepare for it at least you know what I’m saying? Like a failsafe? Yeah, that protocol has to be fucking develop like a motherfuck. I don’t know. Who’s paying these bums on these on these puking positions in the office brought our country as a fucking joke.
Zeke: Yeah,what happen is with like all vaccines itself like diseases like stars, the Ebola, stuff like that. They get a lot of funding in beginning today by panicking. Neighbors like this stop this. But once things start to level out, and it’s not our pupils run anymore, and then they take away the funding away. And then we kind of left with like, it’s still around, but we don’t have like the researchers, they say we have research for SARS. And we found the vaccine because they modified it. And then even faster track. There we are right now for the covid vaccine. So,
Water: What they should have done. We should have done differently though. What would you have done differently? Well, I know it’s a fantasy when we had everything in play, but let’s say it’s December, and you’re you’re Dr. Fauci you’re supposed to protect us from dying.
Zeke: So, definitely, definitely take it more seriously in that hallway into like March and lead up because they do one person Joe Rogan podcasts. He is a doctor who does similar similar situations he was like, as well as let people know that this is going to happen. I said having the light come out of nowhere, like when like, it was like a one week in March, it was cool. And then for like, two weeks, everything was closed down, everything decided to switch. Nothing is too fast and too jarring for most people. So if you give people time, like a timeline of like, Okay, this is going on right now. And the best thing to do is to do this, this and this, and then we can slowly ease people in to make sure that it’s not like just like a generic switch and everything’s off and nobody knows what to do.
Water: Right. Okay. It’s like putting a girl in somebody is b I mean putting a thumb on somebody but we’ve been girls but without letting them know. Yeah there’s too fast you gotta give them steps right?
Zeke: Yeah, you gotta warm up cuz I don’t like
Water: The title of my book. Oh my god continue to continue I agree. We gotta give them steps.
Zeke: I agree. Because like CUNY CUNY just close and then they took a week off with our code we’ll figure out what to do cuz there was argue among themselves to like should we close and not close into the governor was like yo, we’re gonna close and then after that they had a and again because like even though we go into a digital age a lot of people are being left behind because of access to technology stuff like that.
Water: I read that in class things called di dig digital divide. Yeah. Like third world countries that don’t really have smartphones or access to internet, for sure like that.
Zeke: You know, but yeah, continue. So with that all because they had to stop again because that will give people access to computers because we didn’t know that berries now, then people not everybody has a computer or they have their own personal computer or laptop, stuff like that. So they had to stop again. So we had to kind of also figure out how are we going, how are we going to intimate that and give people access to stuff like that? And it was the day with the ventilators. They had like a whole shortage with the ventilators and then (inaudible).
Water: Yeah, so like, shortness on that too. I yeah.
Zeke: They have like people a lot mostly car company tried to make it everything so you have to think you have to. To use the past as an example, and then you also kind of have to just give yourself time. Like even though it’s not even though it’s not that it’s not extreme right now, let’s just be prepared just in case. And let’s avoid that issue if we can at all costs.
Water: Word, I don’t even think Elon Musk is even doing anything to be honest. He’s just trying to grab a spotlight of attention. As he said he was going to donate something or whatever, for this thing. And then remember when those little like Thai kids were stuck in that cave or some shit? Yeah.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Yeah, he just like I think this was last year or something. He said something about how he’s gonna donate. I’m using a donate like inventory and supplies to help save them something and he never did that. It was like something he was making, too. Or he’s making Yeah.
Zeke: So it can travel inside.
Water: Yeah, he never did that. So it was like a little spotlight. Pr grab, you know?
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: They have to prep for it and set up a protocol. I mean, I’m pretty sure they have a setup protocol for it. They just didn’t implement it fast enough. They just said fuck it. This is nothing This is a regular code. I mean, regular code.
Zeke: Yeah. I kept it also so it was like this is just a call. This is just like a flu like symptoms and then each sounds like it gets worse and worse. So you just like okay.
Water: Yeah. Yeah, man. Like, fuck all that. And now another thing that bothers me is that we’re I mean, people they pass a stimulus check, but it took them fucking weeks. In the debate over when it’s logical if your lower middle class can’t work and sick and are in are sick and they can’t work, they’re the ones that make the make money for upper class. Yeah. So if the lower chain is broken, no water goes up top. You’re saying so cause a big ass fucking crash like what they did in the fucking depression 2008 you know, so I believe we gotta we gotta sacrifice greed for logic in this case, you know,
Zeke: They would just add they’re not done what I think most people agree on the one to own 1200 is more like the other things inside a build items argument. Like whereas like corporate bollocks. Yeah, corporate bailouts and is that enough safety? No, no safety nets for working class. That’s what their argument is now like, most people get good Don’t have to give them 200 was most of those like this dip? A lot of times? That will be one thing. But the sneaky a lot of other things.
Water: It’s definitely definitely gone. It’s called the denims and fine print. Yeah. So that’s exactly why I’m studying for litigation and contracts and people always want to slip some shit on you. Yeah. Let’s say you have a merger on an intellectual property. Somebody could be like, Hey, if you’re sick and absent for 10 days, I have the legal right to take over the company. And, you know, do some steaks shit like that. Yeah. And if it’s a, like a 30 page contract, you know, and there’s one line that says that, you know, if somebody doesn’t read it, your lawyer doesn’t read it, or you don’t read it. And you sign that your fuck? Yeah. You know, that’s, yeah, that’s another reason why that’s going to be my part of the game. I want to make sure nobody gets screwed over especially I’m watching
Zeke: Of course you got to look out for your people’s,
Water: Yeah man yeah right yeah on a lighter note what you eat today?
Zeke: Had some ribs then some chicken no some ribs rice corn.
Water: Mama dukes made?
Zeke: Yeah. Last night
Water: Og chef in the crib.
Zeke: Don’t get tired of home cooked meals at this point.
Water: What so I read this online it’s like a survey. Let’s say Coronavirus, shit ended and everything opened up tomorrow. What is like the top five things you’re going to do right now? I mean tomorrow. Everything opened up. Stay home food wise and events wise. occasion wise.
Zeke: I’m not I’m not going out. I’m not going to start the first swing. Well, the second week of like, just
Water: Forget the waves forget there’s no way you think it’s
Zeke: Like everything’s good. Perfect, like perfect.
Water: Everything’s good. Yeah.
Zeke: All right.
Water: Yeah, yeah. And what would you do? And let’s go
Zeke: Get some food. Probably see the homies.Get some food with them.
Water: (inaudible)
Zeke: Try not to die. Yeah right, Just hangout with the homies again. So just hanging out the homies first who likes to eat with them does like physical contact with people who aren’t related to me.
Water: That’ll be your first thing to do you would you would want to talk to people and interact with them?
Zeke: Yeah
Water: What’s what’s second let’s say like what food would you get?
Zeke: Oh no probably like Sophie some Cuban food. Haven’t had that in a,
Water: Cuban food?
Zeke: Yeah It was something I eat home but like
Water: I had when I went some, what
Zeke: Just saying like Cuban food black people food same difference like the food my mom makes same difference.
Water: Where you from? Where’s your mouse from?
Zeke: Everybody in my family from America My grandmother fromSouth Carolina great grandmother from South Carolina. So you know the slave ship.
Water: Okay. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, I got you. I got you. Okay, I went I went to Miami last August I I went to a Cuban restaurant it was it was definitely not bad bro I mean, like Spanish Spanish food. Yeah. What’s the difference between Spanish and black food?
Zeke: This probably some seasons and then the name like
Water: Yeah but the big price Yeah, it has got some form of chicken and protein.
Zeke: Yeah, no it’s very similar.
Water: I don’t think.
Zeke: This the Spanish version of chitterlings? Not to my knowledge.
Water: Word so might be some kind of like variation with the same bro yeah. Yeah, I never thought about that. Interesting. And then that’s where you would get your go to Sophie’s you will go to Cubans. You’ll get some food.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Is Sophie’s special I mean, isn’t that what you at home?
Zeke: I mean it’s made differently. Like it’s the same stuff but like it’s made differently. Well there’s one in Manhattan there’s one near Baruch um right next right next to McDonald’s.
Water: Ah, okay. Yeah, I know what that is. I think it is. Yeah, it’s like new that new new park Madison Square corner. Yeah Square Park, right?
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: I guess a McDonald is a strip that goes up to the n train w train. Yeah. And there’s like a burger spot right there. snippers or some shit.
Zeke: Yeah, no six. Oh Schnippers is on before the block before the park.
Water: Where would I go? Um, I mean, bro, like, since I’ve been, I’ve been in the crib. I’m learning how to cook like different dishes. Good day I made a chicken parm. Last week I made like a like a brown brown turkey burger. And I’m just trying to learn how to cook better and better because I can contribute.
Zeke: I know how to cook enough to survive like living around us I know how to cook that.
Water: Well yeah I can make eggs you know? What’s the what’s the what’s called favorite dish that your mom makes?
Zeke: I don’t know. But occasionally when she cooks and I’m like cool. I don’t have a favorite just like she is cooking nice.
Water: Okay, so what’s the name of it?
Zeke: I doesn’t know she usually doesn’t cook so
Water: Neither for your birthday like a special day?
Zeke: It depends on my, if I ask her she’ll do it for my birthday but it’s like things are normal she usually doesn’t cook and I get home late I get something to eat real quick unless she cooked and she felt like another cool.
Water: Okay.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Where would I go Bro? I haven’t been home in a long time. I I miss I miss Egyptian food I miss Indian food I miss I honestly I don’t miss Chinese food. Please for this reason to that because of the news but um Oh, the other day I made a fucking quesadilla. I made a bomb ass quesadilla. Like guacamole and shredded chicken. So yeah, fam how We’ve been waiting on this for like one or two hours.
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Why is this one of your longer ones? Yeah. We’re, you know, I’m all about trying to help you you know, unless gather podcast. You know? You’re probably gonna decide later on the headline right? Yeah. Remember make a catchy man. Make sure you grab you grab the hook. You know? Wonder what my brand should be. A yo. But yeah, man, I mean, yo. Give me one sec.
Zeke: Yeah
Water: My grandma just messaged my grandma has a fucking cell phone. She’s um, she’s not even just like overseas right now, she’s just texted me saying hey, it’s your grandma.
Zeke: Like I have your number saved.
Water: Word word fam so z. So yeah, man, it was a pleasure. You know. hours of amazing you know informative. Yeah. So no laid back conversation episode.
Zeke: So before you go the last thing I always ask is what would you name your origin story?
Water: What would I named my origin story?
Zeke: Yeah.
Water: Mm hmm my origin story has to be gangster classy, like Gandalf with Tim’s. But Gandalf is old so I don’t want to be candle even though again office. He My origin story huh? give me give me give me a little bit Hold on. This is like the title of my book. You know, I don’t want it to be something cheesy like epiphany, like a name of a stripper. I’m gonna get that tattooed on my nipple. Tiffany hold on hold on. Third Eye Cream no. My origins Story cycles of growth Hold on, (mumbling) it has to do something with purity with growth life and instincts and ventures. Oh Water.
Zeke: Water.
Water: Yeah.
Zeke: Nice. Like Bruce Lee said be like water.
Water: Yeah word just like Bruce Lee said, Be like water. Still water is unhealthy water moving water is healthy water clear water is pure I mean pure whatever yeah folks with the concept of water because it isn’t everything is in growth is pure yeah that would be the name of my origin water.
Zeke: Nice I’m gonna
Water: Anybody else pick that?
Zeke: Nah.
Water: Nah bet I copyright LLC that shit aight.
Zeke: Unless you go yeah man
Water: Yeah I’ll just keep me updated let me know on the project progress on your project your brand. Yeah have any help with anything legally. You know. If you have another episode you want me to do just keep me updated. Keep Keep me updated on The fucking project bro. Thanks for just I want I want your podcast to grow I want you to grow/
Zeke: Me too this every five seconds theres something I had to fix.
Water: Yeah, you know.
Zeke: I use my phone to record, but it has a new course like every day two minutes it starts again but as small window of time if there’s a gap between the recorder use and the phone, someone’s like great,
Water: Right? You miss like what, like five seconds or three seconds of a,
Zeke: Yeah of video,
Water: Right.
Zeke: I mean like that.
Water: If that’s the case, you might need another recorder just to click as soon as one shuts down in 32 minutes.
Zeke: Oh yeah, as I’m a second phone record is that sometimes it does other added records. So sometimes I don’t remember to record it but I begin around with it. Just stuff like that.
Water: Yeah, this little baby hiccups in you know part of the game that’s how it is in every idea of marketing law management. Yeah, some hiccups you gotta deal with UBI fam stay up I wish you and your family the best you know stay clean and hopefully you don’t have to this is all over we have to Sophie’s get some barbecue ribs. See? Easy. Okay. See,
Zeke: That brings another episode of the Let’s Gather Podcast to a close. I like to thank think my friend Water for coming on the podcast. For next week. My mother is making a return to talk about how she’s dealing with the COVID-19 pandemic. And what’s her future plans are. I hope you continue to have a nice day and hope to see you there.
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